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[–] [email protected] 141 points 11 months ago (9 children)

This is the kind of thing I'd read as alarmist and extremely suspect.

Except it's very real. Coupled with their "Mandate for Leadership" (PDF), they will fuck shit up.

Here's a quote from The Heritage Foundation, who created helped put it all together:

In November 2016, American conservatives stood on the verge of greatness. The election of Donald Trump to the presidency was a triumph that offered the best chance to reverse the left’s incessant march of progress for its own sake. Many of the best accomplishments, though, happened only in the last year of the Trump administration, after our political appointees had finally figured out the policies and process of different agencies, and after the right personnel were finally in place.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They have been moving on this path since Regan, they just have the court and the rigged voting maps now they feel comfortable being open about thier intentions. While people like me was derided as alarmists they were building the engine that got us here

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Really they've been on this trajectory since Nixon. They were talking about playing the long game to get right-wing media established back then. I imagine they also wanted to take other steps to make sure no other Republican went through the humiliation of having to pay for their crimes. Like rigging the judicial system, and everything else we've seen the past 50 years.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's scary as hell, they sound like the Hydra from Marvel Comics. I know the country is at a breaking point but they can't get their way.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dude, they fucking are Hydra. Post Red Skull the aim of the organization was “humanity cannot be trusted with its own freedom” if you add “except for me” to the end of that it’s effectively the entire conservative platform

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Welcome to the decade(s) before the second American Civil War...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I started, mostly jokingly, predicting a schism/Balkanization in 2011 on acid with some friends. But the whole thing can be traced back as far back as the 30s depending on which thread you decide to follow

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

Same old bullshit as usual.

The “promise” is basically:

  • Marginalize gay people, women, and racial minority groups
  • Fuck over the environment
  • Let corporations do whatever they want
  • Make education worse so people don’t question radical right wing policies
[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

The crazy thing to me is that they said their goal is to stop progress. Sure, they tacked on "for its own sake" to give the base something to latch on to, but if you ask any person impacted by LACK of progress it's for very real sakes and stakes for very real people. Fuck these assholes.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

reverse the left’s incessant march of progress for its own sake. Many of the best accomplishments, though, happened only in the last year of the Trump administration

This has got to be a troll, George Lucas had better dialogue in the prequels.

The last year of the Trump administration also happened to be where he started a violent insurrection against democracy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

To them that's a great thing, though.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jesus fuck that Mandate for Leadership is an interesting read. Uncomfortable but it really gives you specific examples of what they plan on doing. 900 pages worth. Wish I had time to read it all as I bet it would help to understand what this fight is all about

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I think it’s safe to boil it all down to modern capitalist dictatorial fascism.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

I also thought it was hyperbolic until I saw the source. Apnews, along with Reuters, are my gold standards for news. If they are reporting it then I believe it is very real and very serious.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I would love to see Democrats acknowledge this and take some action to fight against this.

Has anyone done so yet or are we peons pretty much on our own as usual?

We need more normal progressives to run for local offices. I would run ... but I have the charisma of cow dung and the schmoozing ability of a turnip.

And I would probably want to harm myself dealing with politicians who don't prioritize solving problems over money, power, and other useless bullshit.

But I see an awful lot of selling out to corporate interests and not much of a call to fight against rising fascism ... except as a tool in spam emails and texts to get more donations. I volunteer where I can because I genuinely give a shit. And then I get bombarded with two dozen spam bullshit fundraiser emails a day from this, that, or the other democratic PAC. Certainly doesn't give me much hope that there's any authenticity behind any of it.

Meanwhile, we're an election away from a full takeover that puts the lives of my friends and family and co-workers in jeopardy.

It worries the shit out of us peons but nobody at the top of the Dems is concerned enough, if you ask me.

But I guess that's how the story played out for Mussolini, Hitler, and other fascists so why not repeat history: the pro corporate, center right portion of the Democratic party (ie the vast majority) sits on their thumbs because what have they got to lose when they have power and money?

The Republicans are going to keep chipping away at democracy like they have since Nixon (50 years ago) until they make the country into their own sick image.

Idk what the fuck needs to happen exactly but fucking somebody do something. Lead the charge. Idk?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I still can't get my head around the fact that anyone could sincerely mention Trump and greatness in the same sentence.