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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So stop using electronics? We’re talking about a phone with its own batteries. I understand your point but Fairphone can’t solve every sustainability and e-waste problem with a single device. Not buying this phone, assuming you buy a different, less sustainable phone, is a net negative.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The phone has a removable battery. Not one that you need to break the device apart and unsolder everything to get to it, like almost all headphones.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, this is an argument for better headphones.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well tell that to Fairphone, they're only selling shitty e-waste ones instead of providing a headphone jack.

But do let me know who is making in-ear earphones with a removable battery. Not massive over the head cows. Portable earphones.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For those buy a dongle. This is not a reason to force a headphone jack on every phone. If it were a modular option, sure who cares. But “every phone needs a jack so some people don’t have to use alternatives” isn’t a good point

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, so when we're saying that it was wrong of the company that sells their products on the promise of sustainability and compatibility, to remove their headphones jack and sell shitty ewaste earbuds instead, we're totally saying that every phone in the world needs a headphone jack.

Also funny how quickly we went from "you can get headphones with AAA batteries" to "use a dongle".

If only there was some simple solution that has worked for decades, has zero downsides and costs almost nothing to implement. If only!

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You moved the goal posts. The original complaint was about wireless headphones. Now it’s about wired ear buds. If you dig hard enough you can be mad about anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s important.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ok sir, only what you say is important is actually important. Got it. Bye.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They could create less e-waste by including a headphone jack and not removing it cause they wanna sell their own wireless headphones. Its a simple money move. And I don't wanna support a company like that even if in theory their message is just.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s also in keeping with the entire industry. “I don’t want to use a USB-C dongle” isn’t a principled stance

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've made plenty of other good points for why the headphone jack should be still included.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

You’ve certainly made plenty of points about it