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France to ban female students from wearing abayas in state schools (www.bbc.com)

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Pupils will be banned from wearing abayas, loose-fitting full-length robes worn by some Muslim women, in France's state-run schools, the education minister has said.

The rule will be applied as soon as the new school year starts on 4 September.

France has a strict ban on religious signs in state schools and government buildings, arguing that they violate secular laws.

Wearing a headscarf has been banned since 2004 in state-run schools.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should assume kids can wear what they want

Yes. But they are kids and with unlimited freedom, they tend to over do it. I'm more worried about giving them too much agency in general. But with Muslim kids there is also the real possibility of a dress code being enforced from home. And forcing a strict dress code in public schools could maybe help there. I'm not sure.

But in generall I think you have good criteria. And the "abayas" (that is a word I just learned today) really doesn't seem to fit them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Let them overdo it? What is absolute worse that can happen, a bunch of kids get into fashion design and start an arms race?

Being able to design and make clothing is a skill that I do not have but greatly respect from my few attempts at it. I would much rather see every kid being able to develop their skillset vs hobbling them. We would never do this with other skills. We would never demand that kids that are good at sports play badly because other parents forbid their children from playing. Other parents are going to hurt their children, that is very unfortunate but it doesn't mean all kids have to be hurt to make it fair.