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Let's say there's someone I want to call Mr/Ms/Mrs [Name], but I don't know their gender, is there a title I can use that doesn't assume their gender?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm wicked sorry, I don't have a good answer. You could try Mx and see how it feels. I've dropped sir/ma'am for folks that I know, or that appear my age or younger. I still use it for older folks I don't know out in the wild.

I, personally, never take offense at being misgendered in a Southern accent if I'm called "ma'am". I grew up in the South and to me it just feels like someone's trying their best to be polite and I take it as intended. Sometimes I also just misparse it as "man", which feels a bit informal, but whatevs. Miss still feels creepy, but I get that less now that I've hit 30.

If you're working at a drive through where there's a customer/service worker dynamic, I'd 1. go with ma'am or sir 2. accept it if someone corrects you, and 3. recognize you're more likely to be yelled at by someone for using a 'new-fangled honorific' than for misgendering someone.

Edit: Oh! I have replaced "Thank you sir/ma'am" with "Thank you, kindly" and that seems to work for me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like thank you kindly! Haha

And no, I don't work at a drive through, I just use them occasionally. Lol. And yeah, miss has always felt weird to me. I know in other parts of the country ma'am has an age connotation, so maybe miss is more appropriate there? But to me, it always felt sort of... Disparaging. Like you're specifically saying "you there, child-like-female-being!" Lol. Just doesn't sit right.

And I'd so much rather be yelled at for using new fangled honorifics. Haha. If I accidentally misgender someone, I know I've potentially ruined a day, or at the very least added to a certain level of frustration. If I get yelled at for some new fangled honorific then what I've done is outted a jerk, and pissed them off, and pissing off jerks makes me happy. Haha.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

'Boss' is a pretty good one for someone you're trying to show respect to. 'Buddy' is good if you're on an even field.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just use dude. I use that for ladies and gentlemen.

Except in the office. I call all my male workers ladies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

One could argue that it still caters to a binary designation.