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I'm pretty sure everyone at lemm.ee is cool with y'all. I'm still not super sure why other instances want to defederate with you tbh lol
Well I am not cool with y'all. How you treat people whose opinions you don't agree with can definitely be improved.
Lmao we treat people with differing opinions completely fine. Hexbear isn't a monolith.
We just dont tolerate debatebros. I have yet to see someone engaging in good-faith discussion being mistreated.
Smug gotchas, refusing to engage in the arguments you're presented with, choosing condescention and the like gets you rightly treated like a condescending dickbag. Civil discussion is a two-way street.
Your entire post history is you deliberately trying to start shit with hexbear, and in the process defending war crime denialism and nazi apologia.
I am not "deliberately trying to start shit with hexbear." I did not defend war crime denialism. You guys are the ones defending the genocide against Uyghurs by China. You guys are defending the hostile acts of Russia. You guys are always attacking anything that is against the interests of socialist nations, regardless of how autocratic the regime is.
I also did not defend Nazi apologia. That is a very serious but untrue allegation that I would like to refute.
If you put yourself in shoes of the rest of the Lemmy users, you would find that Hexbears also sound like they are "deliberately trying to start shit."
You are literally deliberately starting shit and posting to others about how best to make hexbear look bad. Your post history is not private.
You were pointed to apologia by Adrian Zenz and you defended it, you were pointed to Nanjing massacre denialism and you were offended that the war crime denier was called a dipshit.
You are not subtle, you are not clever.
Is denying the genocide against Uyghurs (which several Hexbears did) really that much better than defending Nazis (which I did not do)?
There is no genocide against the Uyghurs and continuing to lie about it is the holocaust denial you're being accused of. You're diminishing the term 'genocide' and making what the nazis did look as comparatively harmless as what China is doing. You're doing PR for the nazis by making their crimes look less serious.
But you've had this explained to you a thousand times. You know what you're doing. You're doing it because that's your goal, clearly.
You are doing PR for the Chinese Communist Party. I have nothing against communism, what I am against is their dictatorship.
My goal is to... well I don't really have a goal. All I want to do is to make my opinions heard just like you are.
How do you know that? All the evidence we can find says that China is not doing that.
Your gut is telling you they are. What could give you this instinct? It could only be rascism.
I am not deliberately starting shit. All I'm doing is engaging in discussions by leaving replies to comments I don't agree with. From my observation, this is also what many Hexbears are doing. When Hexbears do this, it's fine because they "don't have downvotes" and "have been very active for 3 years." When I do this, apparently I am "deliberately starting shit."
I am well aware of the fact that my post and comment history is public.
I did not defend the apologia by Zenz. You are deliberately misinterpreting my words. What I said was although his apologia were unacceptable, that does not invalidate his opinions on other topics. To make it extra clear, I did not defend the apologia by Zenz. I also do not condone what the Nazis did. What you said in your comment is slander and hurts my reputation. I would like to politely request that you take down the allegations.
Though Lee Teng-hui did deny the Rape of Nanking, the "war crime denier" was the first democratically elected president of Taiwan, which makes him one of the pivotal figures in the history of Taiwan. I certainly don't agree with his viewpoints on the Rape of Nanking, but I still respect him just for the fact that he brought change to the political landscape in Taiwan.
You are deliberately starting shit, we have your own words on the fact that you post in threads with the aim of making hexbear look bad. Don't even fucking start.
And you can suck my fucking nonexistent nuts, you don't get to start shit and defend nazi apologia then get mad when it's called out.