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I don't like Wagyu beef (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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There, I said it. Had some Wagyu A5, genuine certified import from Japan prepared by an actual chef on a handful of occasions. The last one was on Saturday as part of a business conference in the exec suite of some fancy hotel, talking to potential investors.

The set menu cost the equivalent of $700 per person, wines not included.

And. I. still. don't. like. it.

The meat is simply too rich, too soft, too greasy. There's no bite to it. Every time I try it, it reminds me of sucking on a piece of beef flavored butter. A slightly solidified cube of beef lard.

Just give me a Black Angus rump or sirloin steak if you must, that's pretentious enough at a fraction of the cost and provides such a nicer eating experience.

And please, PLEASE, for the love of everything holy, don't give me Wagyu cubes topped of with steamed foie gras. That's akin to buttering your lard. Maybe in 50 years when all my teeth are gone, I'll appreciate being able to grind down a piece of beef between my gums. But as it stands, the Wagyu hype couldn't die fast enough.

/rant

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When I had it in Kobe they would cook the steak, slice it in to stripes and then cook the cut pieces. Lots of sear, most of the fat is rendered out and its great. You won't get it medium rare with this method but you really don't want a5 cooked less than medium or medium well because of the fat content.

If it's cooked like that and still too rich for your tastes then it's just not for you. If they're serving you a full steak of the stuff uncut and medium rare, they're fucking up the meat.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes I had stripes, cubes, whole steaks, burger mince and whatnot, and just don't enjoy it in whichever fashion.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm having trouble with your preference for rump or sirloin. Maybe you just don't like beef if you didn't list ribeye first? Or maybe you like things well done?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ribeyes can be nice, really depending on the particular piece of meat, but they can already be marbled beyond my liking. I eat my steaks rare, bordering on blue, so I want the meat to be on the leaner side since you don't render all the fat out in the cooking process.

When I make my own I'll usually go for picanha (rump cap), cut them into thick slices and grill them on the fat cap until it's rendering in the pan and then brown the meat just for half a minute on either side in the fat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You must hate sushi.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I love it. But then again I live in Asia where we get prime sushi, the stuff served elsewhere in the world is often miserable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But you don't like fatty/smooth texture. I would think that would limit the fish you would like raw. I've lived East Asia, and currently live where one can get good sushi. Maybe it's a reverse problem. I grew up eating grass fed beef, elk, bison, deer, some straight from a farm or hunted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For fish that's no problem at all, no idea why tbh., come to think of it. There are very few I don't enjoy - and that's usually due to that sweet mayonnaise and not the actual fish. As sashimi I couldn't name a single one I wouldn't eat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very different flavors and textures overall II suppose. I was just wondering. Fish definitely tastes more oily than greasy. Maybe that's a difference? Thanks for the polite conversation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Definitely possible. I'll try to evaluate that over my next sushi session ;-)

And this isn't reddit, we can all be nice to one another... For now, I suppose.