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Michael Knowles is responsible for that quote. However it's a very common mainstream right wing tactic to say things in the same spirit of "transgenderism must be eradicated" stopping just shy of blatant calls to violence or genocide. Here's a full breakdown of this tactic using this exact quote. Here's what it looks like when you take this line of reasoning to it's full conclusion. Here's what genocide actually means since it's often just thought to be mass murder, which is inaccurate. Here's an example of a US state seeking to enable a form of trans genocide. Here's a breakdown of 37 US states taking steps towards trans genocide. Here's an example of Jordan Peterson engaging in blood libel a tactic largely used against Jews that has been applied to other marginalized groups to dehumanize them. A tactic popular among Nazis. There's plenty of examples of right wing pundits and politicians making thinly veiled endorsements of trans genocide out there if you look for them and are willing to recognize their dog-whistling for what it is
Trans people don't find? Fit? I'm assuming fit. cultural genocide refers to the erasure of a groups cultural identity. Which absolutely fits their current situation.
I never said they were currently victims of genocide, but we are not far off from it at all. The bills regarding children and hormones are to cause enforced detransitioning. If you're broader with your definition of genocide, and there's good reason to be; these bills if passed and enforced, could reasonably be considered acts of genocide.
SB 254 was the bill from Florida I linked in my above comment was an example of the more rigid definition of genocide. It would allow children to be forcibly moved to Florida into the custody of their parent who lives there. A state that recently banned gender affirming care (hormones), relaxed death penalty restrictions, and a separate bill that allows for the death penalty of child sexual assault. An act thag the right wing is more than happy to accuse trans people of.
Just because it isn't happening right now doesn't mean it isn't a serious threat to a very marginalized community. If you'd read that bit about dog-whistling or watched the video linked on Michael Knowles, you'd know that politicians dont have to say the quiet part out loud. They're able to communicate their position through coded language and apeals to the more extremist demographics in their party. Desantis is running almost exclusively on an "anti-woke" platform. A part of that platform is pushing anti-trans sentiment and legislation. Trump has included gutting trans rights as a part of his platform. Their intent is clear.
Peterson and Knowles both have a clear and obvious effect on political discourse in the US. Particularly about things like LGBT rights, racism, misogyny and plenty of other hot button topics right now. Their part in all of this is obvious
I'm not sure if you're purposefully ignoring or just ignorant to the research that has demonstrated that having access to gender reaffirming care significantly reduces risk of suicide in kids and teens. By banning these treatments, right wing legislatures are directly responsible for a rise in trans people dying.
I do suggest that you read up on the history of how the Nazis got to power and how they built up to the extermination camps over time. You seem to be missing the nuances behind every single comment you've interacted with in this thread and I'd assume it's because you have absolutely no historical context. Or maybe you're just arguing in bad faith. Either way, the GOP has trans kids' blood on their hands because of their policies. Genocide or not.
Lmao dude. Your comebacks are just too witty. I feel so owned. My liberal tears, gushing everywhere.
It's been fun, but I need to retain some brain cells so have a good one lol
Culture: the customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation, people, or other social group.
LGBT people are a social group. They have a distinct culture and history. Not knowing this is just ignorance on your part.
When a complex topic such as genocide is brought up, the context informs how it is defined in the conversation. Language is fluid and words have different definitions depending on their usage.
Banning gender affirming care and forcing detransitioning is a form of, or precursor to, genocide depending on your definition. As mentioned earlier, LGBT people are a social group with a distinct culture and history.
I'm not.tying child rape to trans rights. I said in literally the next sentence that the right accuses trans people of being groomers and pedophiles. All other things from that paragraph taken into consideration shows that the right could easily use and manipulate our already unjust and corrupt criminal system to justify the death penalty for trans people. Florida is a strong case for the rights attempts at genocide.
A lot of the cases cited would affect children and adults alike. You shifted the focus to children and I responded to that. The Florida laws affected gender affirming care for adults too, for example.
Most americans do not support anti trans legislation.
If you're voting republican, you're voting against your friend and you support genocide, whether you accept it or not. I'm not going to dickride democrats but they're at the very least not trying to push this garbage
There literally are people saying that we need to round up and shit people. A lot of them. In those exact words. Here. Since you apparently missed it the first time I linked it. My own family are the type of people to say that. Their church is full of people that say that. I know many people that say trans people should be mass executed. And there are a litany of examples online showing just that. Violence against trans people has exploded since trump took office. It's real and it's already resulted in deaths.
You've clearly, maliciously, intentionally misrepresented the link between child sex crimes and accusations against trans people. Unless you live under a rock, there's no doubt you've personally encountered this rhetoric online, through mainstream media, or in person. I'm not saying something that isn't well understood by plenty of people. Your own chosen party is responsible for this connection existing.
You're willfully ignorant of the politicians and party you support. You're lying to yourself to the detriment of others and if you give even half of a shit about trans people or other marginalized groups you would stop voting for them. You're a pedantic hypocrite who's unwilling to face reality and it's pathetic. Be the person your trans friend thinks you are.