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I imagine there's excitement for the increase of activity but worries about the potential toxic side of Reddit coming along too.

I'd especially be interested in the Lemmy devs' opinions.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Honestly, while most people here have been alright, toxic newcomers have been a problem and I consider this place ill-prepared to handle them in a bigger wave than this one.

There has already been an observable culture shift, and some nasty screaming when some newcomers used to being a majority are challenged in their views and shocked to find a nontrivial pushback. And I feel that lemmy.ml will undergo a similar event to /r/antiwork if there isn't staff action taken , where the place loses all its values and just becomes a sanewashed recuperated place that feels cheated when its founders keep saying what they said from the start. People largely just don't read rules or sidebars, it seems, and realize lemmy.ml explicitly says it isn't a general unthemed instance for everyone. It's broad, but not 'reddit' broad, nor (pretending to be) politically neutral. Relevant source

Edit: I realize this may come off as "why aren't other people doing more things!". I realize the staff/devs are overloaded, I'm not blaming them to telling them to drop things. But I regret how few moderating/admin staff were recruited, and we're seeing how many communities were made 4 years ago and have no active moderation, nor culture to avoid this becoming 'reddit but here'.

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know how to interpret "everyone should feel welcome here" other than it is for everyone. As far as culture shift, it really is impossible to maintain the more "fringe" leftist culture with an increase in users, marxist-leninist simply do not exist in large enough numbers. I don't really see why lemmy.ml shifting its majority political leaning would be something negative to you, since the only thing that would happen would be more discussion in the comments, and if discussion isn't something desirable, places like lemmygrad do exist

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I'm not even talking about the M-Ls, I mean even as broad as anti-capitalism and tech/FOSS. There was a meta discussion a while back I started seeking clarification on what "leftist" in the lemmy.ml blurb means, suggesting something less vague. Because to the devs, it evidently doesn't mean 'progressive capitalists'.

This isn't just some preference, because these factors are precisely why Lemmy won't become another reddit disaster. And no, they're not niche groups. Even on reddit, these communities are substantial!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I really hope you're not talking about me here. I feel like you might be.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No, not you, you're fine. This main person I had in mind was an active (self-admitted) troll who was literally incapable of discussion.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ahh, ok cool. :)