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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just as a side note (and I'm not advocating for anything, I just think it's good for people to think things through and have the full picture), the reason why many publications went to a subscription model is that so many people started using ad blockers. The publications have staff who want to be paid for the job they do, and other expenses like server infrastructure. They used to pay for all of that by selling ads on their sites, but then people found ways to avoid seeing ads, so the advertisers didn't want to pay for them anymore.

So the publications had a choice between shutting their doors or charging a subscription, and many chose the latter. Now people are using techniques like this to avoid the subscriptions. The publications will either have to figure out a more effective paywall, come up with a different business model, or go out of business.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I wish the micropayments model people were proposing twenty years ago had taken off. I don’t have any interest in subscribing to The New York Times, for example, because I just don’t read it very much, but I wouldn’t object to paying a few cents every time I happened to read one of their articles.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I agree that model is more tenable. Honestly, if the websites hadn't gotten so riddled with completely obnoxious ads, people might have been less motivated to use ad blockers when they were first available. Our older two kids were teenagers in those days, and told us we should start using them. I told them the same thing about the business model, and they just insisted that the content should be free. I said then, and I say now, that's unrealistic. I know I wouldn't work a full time job for no pay, and I wouldn't expect anyone else to.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I was perfectly fine with having header/footer/banner ads and left my adblocker off, unfortunately almost all advertisements have become so obnoxiously placed and irritating. If they weren't so greedy, I feel like most people would have been okay with it.

I'm okay with my physical newspaper running ads too but not putting super intrusive ones or the ones that are disguised as actual reporting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was ok with some ads also, and still would be. What grinds my gears is the tracking… I don’t want the tracking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Very true but the reason for all this tracking is the advent of personalized advertising.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Exactly. All the ads that cover the content, have X's that you can barely hit without clicking the ad, have autoplay videos, and that kind of thing just made it unlivable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Exactly. It makes me wonder why no one has tried a more ethical advertising model. It seems to be either intrusive ads or paying a subscription.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, it's a weird one. We got used to the fact that everything is pretty much free on the internet. Unfortunately, nothing is free, we either pay with out personal data, watching and interacting with ads or through subscriptions and paywals.

There is just no incentive for people to provide good content on the internet unless they have other means of sustaining themselves or they charge for it.

For instance, there is so much free stuff thanks to developers making their hard work open source. However, they are only able to do it because even if they are not getting payed for this, either they have a job that pays for other work they do or they have access to other means of financial support like family for instance. And I am not saying that much of open source (not all) is not essentially people giving away their hard work for free but I am saying that if the choice was to make some program for free and go hungry or charge for it and have a meal then we all know what it would look like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Almost makes it seem like a UBI would be a good way to support the people who do work that no one wants to actually pay for (usually because the people avoiding payment aren't getting paid enough in the first place)