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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Better education and better cultural norms that didn’t prioritize “things” and consumerism would go a long way.

So on the one hand I agree with you. On the other hand, consumer spending is 70% of U.S. GDP. If consumer spending takes a hit, we're all going to feel it.

If this sounds awful it's because it is. Our economy is not designed to benefit all, or even most.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Would agree. I think what is more at issue is the level of indebtedness. Like the % of people that can’t afford a 500 dollar emergency.

And this isn’t because of inflation.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-cant-afford-a-500-emergency-expense/

Inflation of course has made it worse. But when covid hit and the government started just handing out money and suspending loan payments it became a real problem. Many of those people with the loans took that money and continued spending and acting like the loans were just going away.

Even if the US just wiped all outstanding consumer debt off the table, it’s not going to fix the issue. Because it’s cultural and behavioral. And frankly it’s worrying in that I don’t really see a fiscal or policy that can make it better. People won’t chnage and it means we are heading for more pain (financially).

Even anecdotally it’s shocking to me when people ask how we paid for xyz emergencies but still get into 1000 dollar a month car loans or buy iPhones on credit.

It seems silly but it’s happened most of my adult life. And it’s never not been shocking.