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The video shows that Officer Mark Dial shot and killed Irizarry within five seconds of getting out of his cruiser.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cops seem to get a paid vacation when they murder (leave with pay) so why wouldn't they?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Because a normal human being does not in any way enjoy taking another persons life?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Normal humans don't sign up to be pigs

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it though? I've seen enough of human history to outright dispute that claim.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was gonna make a comment about the theories on how child raising and alcohol and other factors are often proposed to make a case that half of everyone in history would be considered deeply traumatized and developmentally impaired... But honestly that's too dismissive of the vast majority of human history for a discussion of what a "normal" human is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually that's a good point. I've often thought that the reason the Baby Boomer generation has such a notorious reputation is due to their fathers coming back with severe PTSD. Previous gen before that had the Great Depression. We're still dealing with early 20th century trauma to this day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Don't forget lead and other heavy metal and environmental pollution having clear and proven effects on peoples aggression.

No wonder that in the days of drinking out of lead cups and using lead for plumbing, murder and general brutality was far more common.

Romans are a really good example of all this. They had so much lead in their system you couldn't take an X-ray of them if you wanted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If that is all you've taken out of seeing human history and haven't seen a trend directly related to the use and intake of heavy metals and the sort, and in the modern age the difference between murder rates in the US, by population and police, compared to the rest of the western world, you haven't seen nearly enough of human history to understand anything.

Historically, the prevalence of just lead on its own boosted the aggression and sociopathic behavior of the population to ludicrous extents and these days, when that should be very little of a factor, the US still far outranks anyone else on the same developmental level by obscene levels.

It's a combination of the US being sucky about environmental pollution and having a serious societal problem with police being murderous asshats and people being OK with it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

That's a (* mumbles) sumthing sumthing bias! You only read and see it in history and media because it's exceptional. While the mundane just passess as throughout time without even a footnote.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pictures of crowds of people smiling and bringing their children during lynchings (and taking souvenirs!) would say otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Is that the human condition or the prevalence of heavy metals in everything ...

Interesting how people chilled down worldwide the more we took those elements out of the food supply and are only more common in areas where the standards about heavy metals and other environmental pollutants are shit.

And for the western world, the US is an outright aberration, from general murder rates to how specifically the police are 10-20x more probable to murder people over absolutely nothing than anywhere else in the west.

Fuck, even Mexico has a lower deaths by police rate per capita than the US. And they are constantly at war with the cartels.