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The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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[–] Difficult_Bit_1339 8 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Don't de-federate unless they're allowing the planning of violence, CSAM material, or actual abuse.

As a leftist I see it like this:

Blocking someone is: "I don't want to see this"

De-federating is: "I don't want you to see this"

Blocking someone is: Ignoring a person saying bigoted things.

De-federating is: Jailing a person saying bigoted things.

If you can't handle people saying shit you don't like then you need thicker skin. If you can't engage in a conversation with a person who shares an opinion that you fine distasteful then you need to seek maturity.

If you can't disagree with someone without physically attacking them, then you don't deserve to be part of a community. If you can't exist without abusing another person, then you don't deserve to be part of a community.

[–] kukkurovaca 38 points 1 year ago (9 children)

lol, defederating is not anything like jail

  • Federating is like sitting at a big table with a bunch of people in a restaurant.
  • Blocking is moving a couple seats down from someone who's being an asshole so you can't hear them anymore (but meanwhile they're still harassing your friends, you're just ignoring it)
  • Defederating is separating the group so that you're no longer at the table with the asshole and their asshole friends

Now, in a tolerant society, we should be tolerant of people who are merely annoying. But not people who are normalizing violence and hate. There are people you fundamentally should not sit at a table with.

It's important to understand the difference between a good faith disagreement and bad faith propaganda and harassment campaigns, which is what the right wing troll farms deal in.

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