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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To setup an esim you need google framework and play installed (grapheneos is out, except you install Google)

This is the idea behind... More control

[–] timbuck2themoon 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't think this is true?

I use calyx which has only microg and I've successfully used esims. No play store installed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's somewhere on the GrapheneOS website, Says to install you need google play, you can delete it afterwords. That said calyx has microg

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Nah, I use GrapheneOS. Unfortunately you need to install the play store/services initially to services and "enabled privileged esim access" in the network access to install esim. After that though, you can purge all the Google crap and easily uninstall it all. Esim will remain in your phone, even if you were to factory reset and reflash to another OS. You just have install esim only once and it's actually stored on the hardware level.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

you need google framework and play installed

Nonstarter for me then 👎 frustrating too, why ~~these companies insist on~~ use Google's infra instead of creating or adopting an actual celluar standard?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Only to initially install it. After you install the esim, you can purge the Google stuff and it'll remain working perfectly. Esim is actually on your phone at the hardware level.