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Interesting figure that comes out of the article: 87% of US teens prefer iPhones. Also the explanations given aren't quite surprising, I guess it's mostly because of iMessage. Teens will feel like outcasts if they get an Android phone while their friends still use iMessage because of the green bubbles.

It's actually hilarious how we allowed consumerism to take us this far and that we have now peer pressure over smartphones.

“You’re telling me in 2023, you still have a ’Droid? [...] You gotta be at least 50 years old.”

ouch 😔

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

i've only ever heard about this "green bubble" thing from USA media.

do Americans still use SMS?

why? phone numbers are obsolete. my SMS inbox going back years is just 2FA security codes, and they're very rare these days, since authenticator apps.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah sms ought to be the standard default. Since companies like apple refused to help improve it, people like you turn to other solutions. If you use WhatsApp, you should know Facebook owns it and uses it to spy on you for profit. I'd prefer "obsolete" sms to that...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

RCS should be the default. SMS is the protocol designed for old non smart cellphones.

The exact problem is that Apple DOES default to SMS outside of imessage

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right.. but isn't RCS designed to be a superset of sms, with sms being a fallback for old clients on the other end? Really I meant "there should be a standard text protocol for all devices" which is what sms was originally, it just lacked all but the most basic of features.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't like RCS entirely in its current form but I believe that (I could be very wrong but) SMS is planned to be phased out in the long term, how they plan to replace its reliability is beyond my understanding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are still no FOSS RCS implementations on either platform.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WhatsApp is end-to-end encrypted.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right but it's also owned by Facebook so it's doubtful they aren't using all possible means to spy on you regardless of that fact

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Also fwiw Google can still see what you write if you use their keyboard (or OS, but I can't bet on that, and their software being able to see it doesn't mean they record it, just that they can)

Just as Apple can too BTW.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely. Not sure putting one’s trust in Google is much better though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, Google didn't actively decide that facilitating genocide was worth the dollars it earned them 🤷

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They tried to but employees stopped it (they staged a walkout or something IIRC)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough, Google is definitely the lesser of evil comparing them. But encrypted Meta versus non encrypted Google is not a no-brainer decision.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure what Google service you mean, but RCS is also end to end encrypted

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Still popular in Australia, at least in my demographic

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Same here, it's all 2fa and appointment reminders for things. Even my elderly relatives uses WA now.