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When I first started using Lemmy it seemed like such a nice place with interesting discussions. It seemed like the first group of people to join after the app exodus were being quite careful to be respectful of the existing culture.

Now, it seems as though the culture from Reddit has completely replaced it. Toxicity and all. I will say I do follow a lot of communities from a wide range of instances so it's clearly not everywhere.

Am I the only one who's feeling like we've just stormed in and bulldozed Lemmy?

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[–] [email protected] 208 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I came to Lemmy from reddit and I find it an incredibly nice place to be, full of polite discussions and fun posts. I haven't seen any of what you're saying.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

When the rightwing communities started getting defederated, their users started making alts on the main instances.

Then you've got lemmy.grad which I still have trouble believing aren't just all trolls.

I've never seen a logical comment from any of them. And they agree with the rightwingers waaaaay to often for it be a coincidence.

Like, there was a thread the other day filled with people saying Islam is a violent religion and no other religion encourages violence. And all 1.7 billion Muslims support terrorist extremists.

Maybe because China and Russia have also been oppressing them for centuries so lemmy.grad has to act like that's the right move?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like, there was a thread the other day filled with people saying Islam is a violent religion and no other religion encourages violence.

Any links for that one?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No idea how to link so other instances see it on theirs but:

https://lemmy.world/post/3293542?scrollToComments=true

There was like double the comments from last time I looked at it tho, it's been a couple days

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thanks!!

I’m struggling to find any anti-Islamic sentiment in there from lemmygrad users?? (which is what I was interested in seeing … ordinary Christianity > Islam isn’t too surprising to see anywhere I’d say, however shallow it is).

EDIT: All I could find was this one comment from a lemmygrad user (along with a small exchange afterwards) that seemed to me entirely sympathetic to the Afghans and not at all anti-islamic.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

No idea how to link so other instances see it on theirs but:

I’m not sure there is a way right now.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lemmygrad existed before all the reddit people

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just like the rightwingers instances...

They never federated each other, so they were nice to their own in their safe spaces.

Then normal people started joining on "mainstream" instances. And both groups don't tend to do well with an average person. Because they've had their echo chambers so long, they're usually the ones complaining that Lemmy has "changed" when they venture out of their own instances.

Their safe spaces are still the same, they just want all the new instances to conform to what their Lemmy experience has been instead of just sticking to their safe space where it's still like what they remember.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seen this. I commented on the lemm.ee meta discussion about considering defederating from Hexbear. I mentioned some of the things I've seen from Hexbear users and that I wish they'd just take a chill pill. Cue Hexbears (I assume), refusing to take chill pills.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

People I disagree with all around me!! Oh the horror!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I guess I'm just not seeing that part. Hopefully the admins do something.

[–] Kecessa 0 points 1 year ago

I don't feel like I see that many people from the alt right or tankies with my instance being defederated from theirs, so I don't think them creating alts is that much of an issue, but maybe it's because I don't see that much political content on All/top 6h πŸ€”

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Ha same. When I first started lemmy, every time I would accidentally stumble upon a lemmy.grad post I would be so confused. At first I thought it was trolls, i thought it was satire.

And yeah I also remember that post from yesterday, all the comments underneath were people telling eachother to fuck off and that every single Muslim was a violent terrorist who wants to oppress woman. I think these people probably don't get outside much is my best guess . I have noticed quite the lack of civility in some of the threads here...

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree. Came from reddit in June. Lemmy has been a very friendly place. I just posted for advice with a typo in the title. Noone even mentioned it. No belittling advice or bickering. Just kindness and helpfulness.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Did the same and was helpfully informed that unlike Reddit, you can edit the title if there's a typo in it :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Firefish is also incredibly sweet. Honestly the fediverse makes me feel good about the Internet for the first time in years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did see some anti Islam memes on the atheist community but that's not really unexpected, they're anti all religion.

[–] Kecessa 6 points 1 year ago

"We're egalitarians, we hate all of you equally!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree with you in a snide and condescending tone while missapropriating your argument.