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No, don't defederate. Just because an instance doesn't align politically with your views doesn't mean that they have to be gone. And we should definetly avoid a mastodon blocklist situation.
If you refuse to meet someone on level ground because you consider them intolerant of your own ideas, you're the one being intolerant.
Someone with a brain cell, finally
Unfortunately they just have the one
Anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, huh? Sounds to me this call for defederation is just to create yet another echo-chamber.
I have no patience for "both sides" BS, anyone who uses it is obviously not worth listening to
Bragging about your ignorance isn't attractive. Try to be like Daryl Davis, it'll enlighten you.
Good example, someone whose tireless activism that helped avoid openly racist people from getting into positions of power ... oh wait, no, they just got more powerful.
10 years of engaging on reddit taught me that the only way to combat their hateful ideas is to deprive them of oxygen
What are you even on about? How has Daryl's work caused KKK members to get into more powerful positions?
lmao, what a pathetic comment. "10 years of engaging on reddit"
His efforts did nothing to stop them, one got elected as president.
If my comment is pathetic why are you trying to divert from what I said?
I didn't divert from what you said lol, I replied to both parts.
And get real, Donald Trump's a retard, but he's not a KKK member. Is he racist? Yeah, I think he is, but he's not my president, so I don't give a fuck. Trump got elected because investors and corporations saw an avenue to make money, and they did.
You're not very good at this, are you?
Rules, my dude, keep the attacks to yourself.
Doctor, heal thyself
But you're the one trying to pretend ignorance is a valid viewpoint? While I've not been to the supposed shithole in question and i don't really care about this instance specifically, there is no merit to transphobia or COVID conspiracy, pretending otherwise is flying in the face of reality.
I don't think ignorance is a valid viewpoint, that's why I'm criticising you.
I have been to the website, which you should visit before making claims about them. It's a little edgy, but nothing extraordinarily bigoted or nasty.
Who are you to say there's no merit in their views? Can you disprove them? If so, why don't you?
Because it's useless to argue against opinions not based on facts.
It is, yeah. you can't reason people in an unreasonable position. I recommend trying to appeal emotionally.
If people can't be reasoned with with facts then they're not worth arguing with because they don't have the intelligence or maturity to form logical opinions and will just as easily be swayed back into their previous, and wrong, position.
I agree, but in public spaces you can still make them look like a fool.
The problem being that they still manage to convert people even when they look like fools to the majority and the only way to prevent that is to keep them out of the discussion altogether.
Bullshit that's the only way.
I mentioned this before, but Daryl Davis has used discussion and understanding to convert KKK members out of their hateful ideology. It's a method that works and is worth chasing for. Hell, I'll make it easier to convince you, you've heard of the Paradox of Intolerance, yes?
also downvote me? i downvote you. lol (Not like it does anything on this site, but feel free)
You're talking about someone meeting people in person, it has nothing to do with the situation at hand because anonymous people on the internet will never be as reasonable as people you're speaking face to face with.
If you knew anything about the paradox of intolerance you would also know that the philosopher behind it also said that only those who have arguments based on reason should be allowed to speak their intolerant message because only they can be reasoned with. The alt-right doesn't base its message on facts or reality, therefore they shouldn't be tolerated.
haaah, caught you now. Here, you used an offline persona as justification that censoring online communities works.
But once I use an offline persona as justification that discussion works, suddenly it's invalid.
How embarrassing. Just in case you delete your comment, I'm going to tag you, @Kecessa
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The comment that was a reply to is also calling everyone idiots but somehow you don't have an issue with it?