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[–] [email protected] 177 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The US is not safe to travel to and you do not have a legitimate reason to travel there now. Keep this in your mind regardless of what reason you think contradicts this. It is not safe.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As an American, seconded.

I'm trapped here, don't YOU risk being kidnapped and trapped here or sent somewhere worse just because you wanted to see the Grand Canyon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Do they really want me to be trapped? 😮 might go to El Salvador, but trapped?

I'm brown with a thick beard, so I'm used to being "naturally suspicious and prone to explosion" whenever I am within a 5 km distance of an airport. Yet US airports would scare the shit out of me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Definitely seen south Italians darker than me 😂 but coupled with "exotic looks" and the ability to actually tan it's definitely plenty to produce the "terrorist look" and stand out in Scandinavia

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Well yeah, if you're trapped in one of our many prisons, you get to look forward to slave labor! Slavery is perfectly legal and constitutional, as per the 13th amendment.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I am honestly wondering how long it will be before you are eligible for refugee claims in the world with the state of affairs in your country. You aren't trapped though! Come to Canada! We have a bunch of issues now, but it will be a breathe of fresh air compared to the issues you face.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Some people only learn by pain, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

I mean, that would have been an accurate description of me at age 21

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I don't know about pain, but the hard way really is the best teacher. People can tell you things until they are blue in the face, you'll shrug, and when the time comes you may find out what they were talking about. But it will only make sense at that point! Sometimes it can go another way. Sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I have a friend who's going there this weekend. Landing in Orlando, and will be driving to LA. I told him to be very careful!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Orlando to LA? Are they crazy or dumb?

[–] skulblaka 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Flying in from outside the US during this time to then attempt to drive all the way across the South

Both. It's both. I hope they stay safe. There are like 4 different major threats to a foreigner on that route.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Just out of curiosity I know it’s a super long drive but are there like places there where it’s not safe? Have never been to the US

[–] skulblaka 14 points 3 days ago

In the South? Yes, definitely.

  1. The Mexico border is down there. This is worrisome, not because of the Mexicans, but because ICE gangs like to hang out near the border to try and catch runners. A lot of them are tied up in northern cities right now kidnapping citizens but I wouldn't expect them to leave the southern border undefended.

  2. It's extremely hot as fuck right now. Further south you go the worse it gets. I'm ~600 miles north of Orlando and it was 109F outside today (that's about 43C) with over 50% humidity. When you pass through my home state of Louisiana you'll be seeing closer to 115F/80%. With heat that high and humidity content that high heat stroke becomes extremely easy. You'll be dealing with this from Florida through around maybe Texas where it starts to become a drier heat, with lower humidity, but places like Arizona used to hit 120F/49C before we were all talking about global warming.

  3. Southern Americans (as in, Southerners in the US, not people who live in South America, I know it's confusing) are not all racist, but uh... you'll see more who are, than aren't. If you're any shade of brown you're going to have a rough time. If you speak with a "funny" accent you're going to have a rough time. Armed racists populate huge swathes of the southern and midwestern US. This is statistically more likely to be just upsetting rather than directly harmful in most situations, but I wouldn't want to roll those dice, it's still very possible to find people who would just abduct and kill a foreigner they don't like.

Currently speaking, your biggest problems in the American South right now as a foreign tourist are going to be local racism and ICE. The local racism has been around forever and is mostly tolerable if you don't take offense easily, but you can probably expect to be called some slurs right to your face in more than a few small towns. ICE is a newer and probably bigger problem at the moment. They have orders from the president to capture and deport more people than they will possibly be able to accomplish, so anyone who looks or sounds foreign and doesn't have three forms of ID on them to prove citizenship is increasingly likely to get bagged, tagged, and dragged to a blacksite somewhere. I'm not confident that a tourist visa (or even a work visa) is going to stop them, it's already been proven that actual valid citizenship doesn't stop them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

In general I think they're mostly referring to the fact that the U.S is ridiculously BIG. Like, most visitors freak out at how long you can drive through almost nothing here, when going between major population areas.

Driving through wilderness without a lot of extra water and a cellular connection, and maybe a spare tire, for example, is foolhardy.

Along the way, especially in "The South", you'll find the loveliest, kindest people, but you'll also find various, (probably politically motivated, lately) sadists/racists/bullies, some of which may be small-town law enforcement looking for excitement.

The law can be more "flexible" without major oversight in such places, and with the cult of the orange tyrant emboldening the prejudiced lately, that could spell trouble.

There's also various kinds of unsavory types as you'd find in any other country; I'm talking criminals, swindlers, and various weirdos of ill intent, and some stretches of the country are remote. Like, "no signal and it goes on and on in all directions until you see the earth curve" remote.

The vast majority of people are lovely, and would probably welcome and appreciate foreigners, the worst you'd deal with is getting a migraine from stupid but friendly questions about your accent or where you're from.

But like anywhere else, you need your wits about you.

In short:

Lovely place where many sights and adventures can be had! The biggest dangers are the roads and wilderness, basically.

  • Don't mess with wildlife.
  • Don't go off exploring remote areas in which you have no business
  • Don't underestimate the wilderness and go unprepared.
  • Practice the same street smarts as you would anywhere else, like don't go getting into strangers' cars or accepting random open beverages.

Setting aside the anomalous political tensions right now, the biggest danger to travelers to this country is seeing it as a big theme park where they can't possibly put themselves in any danger. Your average park rangers have plenty of horror stories about that, I'm sure, like idiots trying to selfie in front of buffalo or stand on the edge of the Grand Canyon, or falling into Yellowstone's tranquil but literally boiling hot springs...

Don't be that tragic idiot . . .and you'll likely have a fantastic time.

Hope this helps. :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Thanks a lot, this is super helpful actually! Couldn’t imagine driving through areas for hours without reception or any signs of civilization, sounds kinda exciting and scary at the same time. Will definitely keep this saved

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm glad I could be helpful!

Thankfully, the cell signal situation has improved a LOT among major routes in recent years, so I hope it doesn't sound too scary. There's also safety in numbers, at the very least the buddy system! :)

There's a lot of online information / guides for travelers, and of course, get a U.S SIM card and check who's got the best/broadest service areas where you'll be going. Also, offline maps can be downloaded to your device as well.

(But learning to use a paper one is always an excellent skill to have!)

In case of an emergency, phones can still usually reach 911 (our emergency services number) if they can reach a cell tower at all, regardless of "subscription", if that's of any comfort. :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wish your friend safety in their travels!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I wish your friend safety in their travels!

Lol what degree of douchebag would downvote your comment, holy cow LOL.

I sincerely commend the positivity and kindness you've been bringing to this thread with warmly inviting people to flee to Canada.

Edit: Although maybe you're being a bit harsh further down. :( It doesn't have to be so personal? People are just discussing stuff. Let's not let the decisions of stupid men in power deter us from productive discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (26 children)

you do not have a legitimate reason to travel there now.

My parents live here 💀

I live here 💀💀

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Damn. So sorry.

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