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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Are 2000 pounder JDAM dropped on gazan civilian buildings more moral than a cluster bomb?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

It depends on who sold it to them. If it was one president, centrists love it. If it's another president, they still love it but have to pretend they don't so they can blame people to their left.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The moral calculus of bombs is a truly fucked up thing.

If the JDAM is driving a single conventional warhead, it is more ethical than a cluster bomb.

It is common for some of the cluster bomblets to not detonate creating unknown minefields that persist for decades. A single bomb only goes off once.

(This is the ethics of the bomb, not the conflict they're used in)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay but if it hits a full apartment building, 100% of that bomb goes to killing unaware civilians.

Which is the whole reason cluster munitions are bad.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any weapon fired at a civilian is a war crime. It doesn't matter what kind of munition was used. The problem with cluster bombs is that the shooting party, cannot control the result. Signatories of IHL have a responsibility to minimize damage to civilian people and assets. The same reason autonomous weapons are a huge ethical problem.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And im saying: is firing indiscriminately with no regard to hitting civilians, now or in 50 years, worse than trying to make sure 100% of a bomb kills as many civiliams and as much of their infrastructure as possible?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Neither is worse, they both suck just as bad.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago

Okay hut what if one of the civilians is a white jewish man, and the other is a persian muslim woman? Killing the jewish guy is worse, right?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Excuse me, the preferred nomenclature is "hamas bunkers" and I'll report you to the ADL if you continue with your antisemitism.

Most unnecessary /s ever.