Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name
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Musk was already a notoriously lying grifter 10 year ago.
It's only naive fanboys who were too immature be able to set aside the natural human tendency to look up to famous people and/or did not had the life experience to recognize and be suspicious of salesman bollocks (whether decorated with techie terms or otherwise) when they heard it that didn't suspect the guy was something else than what the adoring fans thought.
It's not by chance that Musk's fanboys were mainly young adult and teen techies.
When did his stupid submarine thing happen? I think that was the start of the public meltdown
The actual public meltdown started there, but before that there was already a history of sales bullshit with unachievable promises with things like the hyperloop and solar tiles, which for those who were paying attention were enough to mentally classify Musk as part of the "Fishy and possible scam artist" category.
Musk hasn't really changed his swindling strategy much in the last couple of decades, he just started going beyond the script and sharing his actual opinions (which turned out to be "I'm a member of the Fascist elite" crap), possibly because the very cult of personality around him of all the fanboys made him think people loved him for him, rather than for the highly curate tech bro image (back when tech bros were seen as Heroes rather than Villains) he projected.
On point.
I was never a fanboy, but 10 years ago I had hope that he and his companies would make the world a better place.
I never looked much into him as a person, but the promise of neat electric cars and humans living on Mars made it seem like the world was on a decent trajectory.
I was obviously naive in hindsight, but on the surface everything seemed to be fine.
Well, a decade ago I had hope too, but also already felt the guy was fishy (because he already had a history of overpromising and under-delivering and in the areas I was an expert in, I had spotted him outright lying) and so was skeptical about his promises and his companies. Also, having been involved in Tech Startups, my expectation from people in his position and his language were already negative since the Startup World back then was already dominated by scam artists with a salesmanship or Finance backgrund for whom Tech was a vehicle for self-enrichment, not by idealists who loved challenges or the actual Tech.
Also by that point I had already spent a good period in Investment Finance and could recognize a certain style of bollocks a mile away.
I wasn't aware of just how much a shit person the guy was, but all my instints told me he was a sociopath who would only ever do anything better for the World if it made him more money than not doing it.
All of his companies are complete garbage. Cars are a disgusting privilege literally destroying the planet. Colonizing space is a grift that does absolutely nothing for regular people on earth. Paypal jfc... Etc.
Never had a chance of changing the world for a better place. Didn't even try.