we would lock our community to prevent integrity issue during the migration
https://piefed.social/c/[email protected] would become https://piefed.social/c/fedigrow , with all the existing posts and comments
you all would subscribe to the new [email protected] , and then continue as usual

Should the migration not work, we would still be able to use the current community, and then manually migrate elsewhere.

The one caveat is that from Lemmy instances, the community doesn’t have show old posts (see https://lemm.ee/c/[email protected]), but if you were restarting a community from scratch you wouldn’t have access to your old posts anyway.

Other federated instances like feddit.online would also see the posts and comments on the new community: https://feddit.online/c/[email protected]

The objective of this post is to address any questions or issues before we move forward. We are probably going to leave it open for 48 hours, and then reassess based on the community feedback.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Does Piefed even have version numbers yet?

Also, can I opt out of having my posts and comments migrated?

Also why the flagship and not another instance?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does Piefed even have version numbers yet?

Not that I know of, is that a deal breaker for you?

Also, can I opt out of having my posts and comments migrated?

I guess we can try working something out if we would indeed migrate.

Also why the flagship and not another instance?

Would you prefer to use https://feddit.online/ ?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not that I know of, is that a deal breaker for you?

It's just a terrible practice. How do users ensure that an instance is running the latest security patch?

I guess we can try working something out if we would indeed migrate.

While I'm happy to move, I'm not happy to have software falsify my actions and I in no way consent to it doing so.

Would you prefer to use https://feddit.online/ ?

You know me, I like to spread the load.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I had a quick look, seems like current versioning is handled by docker images, without proper versioning indeed: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/INSTALL-docker.md

Hopefully that will be solved down the line.

While I'm happy to move, I'm not happy to have software falsify my actions and I in no way consent to it doing so.

Noted. I might migrate [email protected] using that feature, do you have any comments or posts there we should remove?

You know me, I like to spread the load.

I guess at some point I'll probably use another instance too. Feddit.fr is tempting, but they aren't using the latest version (I know because the title completion feature is missing). Hence my question on the Piefed Matrix chat on how updates are handled.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Noted. I might migrate [email protected] using that feature, do you have any comments or posts there we should remove?

I don't. You're all good there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for confirming!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m not happy to have software falsify my actions and I in no way consent to it doing so.

There is no falsification if implemented correctly. Every comment and post that you submit is an activity. All that the "community migration" should be doing is to take these activities and re-Announce them, so it should look like a repost on Lemmy.

If the migration feature however takes the content from the imported community and creates new activities out of the comments, then yes, it will be shady.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's falsification and not a slippery slope I want to go down. I only post to communities I want to and I do that explicitly. I do not authorise the pretense that I posted anywhere other than I actually did.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just to clarify: what would you say if someone followed your Lemmy account from mastodon and Boosted (Retweeted) all of your posts and comments?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Retooting isn't the same

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Excuse my pedantry, but from the point of view of ActivityPub, it is.

Any remote instance sees your posts to any community as a as:Announce activity. All that the community is doing is boosting your comments/posts, and that can be done by anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, I watch the video with presenting the feature. @[email protected], what is the AP representation of posts?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

All the posts are reassigned to the local piefed community. From the perspective of remote instances, PieFed just got a new community with a whole lot of content in it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just checked one post from lemm.ee that was migrated to piefed. You are keeping two different objects with the same id, but altering the content to change the audience. I'd have to agree with @[email protected], that would definitely qualify as falsification.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for your magnimity

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

What about "as:audience" attributes from the original "Create(Page)" activities? Does this mean that you are completely rewriting history?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

PieFed will release version 1.0 today.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Congratulations!