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Former Vice President Pence files paperwork launching 2024 presidential bid in challenge to Trump (apnews.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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"Pence supporters see a lane for a reliable conservative who espouses many of the previous administration’s policies but without the constant tumult. While he frequently lauds the accomplishments of the 'Trump-Pence administration,' a Pence nomination in many ways would be a return to positions long associated with the Republican establishment but abandoned as Trump reshaped the party in his image. Pence has warned against the growing populist tide in the party, and advisers see him as the only traditional, Reagan-style conservative in the race."

"As vice president, Pence had been an exceedingly loyal defender of Trump until the days leading up to Jan. 6, 2021, when Trump falsely tried to convince Pence and his supporters that Pence had the power to unilaterally overturn the results of the 2020 election. That day, a mob of Trump’s supporters violently stormed the U.S. Capitol building after being spurred on by Trump’s lies that the 2020 election had been stolen. Many in the crowd chanted 'Hang Mike Pence!' as Pence, his staff and his family ran for safety, hiding in a Senate loading dock."

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, we disagree with a lot - the addition of the heavy spying requirements by automakers was introduced since Biden, and while I support supporting Ukraine I think we're in way too deep already.

I agree, though - no one administration is perfect... I think that Biden is, literally, just not capable of performing at the level a POTUS needs to. Let alone that I think he already can't, I think he should allow some other dem that would be viewed a lot stronger - is there any world where you really think Biden can go another 5 years?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'd rather him not go another 5 to be honest, but to your point who else is there at the moment? I'm not at all a fan of any of the current republican candidates in the running either. Feels like we have the choice between two sets of shit where one is more runny than the other.