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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Awful, just awful.

Y'all, don't go anywhere without some means of self-defense. A pocket stun gun costs $20, or if you live in a country where they're banned, carry a pocket corkscrew with a foil cutter on the end.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Stun guns, while potentially being intimidating to a lone attacker, are surprisingly ineffective if actually used for defense.

Pepper spray, specifically the type that uses a stream instead of a fine mist, is far more effective at stopping an attack and giving an opportunity to escape.

I recommend POM pepper spray, personally. The smaller versions are 50 state legal.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I've been hit by a few stun guns, but not the police kind. It hurts sure and it makes a scary noise, but if I were intent on violence they would not stop me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

But also are still only 60% effective and can be defeated with a thick coat, besides you need to have the exact distance between prongs for intramuscular incapacitation, too close, too far, or one prong miss will all likely fail to adequately incapacitate the attacker.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

It's a good option, no doubt.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I have a slock, which is a lock on a piece of pantyhose. It can be untied and left in my bag and nobody will know what it is at an airport.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Two rolls of quarters are entirely legal to carry, and act as makeshift brass knuckles in a pinch. The additional mass will make you break your knuckles, but you'll be shattering their bones as well.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Shattering your knuckles sounds like a bad idea, especially if your initial defense does not incapacitate your attacker, as it may render you unable to continue to fight back.

As Despoticruin mentioned, a 'tactical' style flashlight or pen would be better options, and you can temporarily blind or disorient the attacker(s) with a flashlight as they close the distance.

Should be mentioned any close-in physical defense like that should be a last resort tactic if you cannot escape, and in those situations, a defender would massively benefit from being physically fit and somewhat knowledgeable on how to fight, preferably from classes where you learn to both dish out and take a punch.

Even then, those tools won't give you much of an edge if you're outnumbered. Pepper spray is still the best non-lethal option for areas that allow you to carry it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you go this route then hammer, don't punch. I hear that those small steel flashlights with the castellated heads are perfect for exactly that kind of swing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Fitspacks are always a bad idea. If you want something legal to carry, start keeping your keys on a locking carbiner rated for rock climbing. If it has a kilonewton (kN) rating stamped in it, it is suitable. This won't collapse on your hand and no amount of force any human is capable of generating will break it, but anyone whose nose you drive it into at maximum effort is likely to remember the experience. This should also be legal to carry anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Definitely not a bad way to go in a pinch.