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You could see it that way, but those are your words you're putting in my mouth, not mine. The point is that most people (not just "the poors" as you choose to call them) aren't used to thinking like wealthy people. When most of us, including myself, see a number like $471,465 we think of things we would buy. Maybe move into a nicer place, for example. Why do you think OP is saying we should be promoting redistribution this way?
I've quoted multiple studies like the one you linked that demonstrate that most people who get Basic Income don't even quit their jobs. In one case the only ones who did were single moms with young children at home, and teenagers who went back to school because they had dropped out to work to help support their families. But I would be shocked if those people didn't buy more stuff with their newfound income, because that's what people do. The wealthy do that too, they just also think in terms of acquiring assets that produce more money. There are definitely people with that mindset (not even necessarily previously wealthy ones) who would focus on asset acquisition, and after a while they would end up accumulating most of the assets.
I'm not putting words in your mouth. I'm saying that's the rhetoric used by people usually saying things of that nature.
I'm not saying you think that.
In the bit where I'm writing in a sarcastic tone about people who are prejudiced toward the financially less well off?
Maybe don't get so upset at people discussing things you bring up. Not everything is a fucking personal attack bro. Go alone a bowl and eat something. Have you been getting enough sun? Low vitamin D can cause irritation and moodiness.
"I would be shocked if they don't buy new stuff because that's what people do."
Your implication being? That the money is wasted on.... "stuff"? What if that "stuff" is clothes, bikes, tools, a car, a washing machine, etc etc? I know for a fact that there's purchase I've put off for literally years. Purchases which maybe have enabled me to do a lot more than I have. They're would've systematically build my life up. A new vacuum cleaner for one. That would help me clean which would help not only psychologically, but with my breathing problems.
And if someone doesn't need those and can invest in a home...?
What are you against here, exactly? What is you implication with "just buy stuff", because it sounds an awful lot like the people who complain about social programs because they don't think poor people deserve money because "they're poor because they haven't worked hard enough, so they're lazy and wasteful and thus giving them money is a waste".
I'm not saying you're saying that. I'm saying that "they just buy stuff" sounds a lot like it.