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This is an open question on how to get the masses to care...

Unfortunately, if other people don't protect their privacy it affects those who do, because we're all connected (e.g. other family members, friends). So it presents a problem of how do you get people who don't care, to care?

I started the Rebel Tech Alliance nonprofit to try to help with this, but we're still really struggling to convert people who have never thought about this.

(BTW you might need to refresh our website a few times to get it to load - no idea why... It does have an SSL cert!)

So I hope we can have a useful discussion here - privacy is a team sport, how do we get more people to play?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I sometimes wonder if NordVPN has done more for the privacy cause than anything else, purely for the sheer amount of advertising.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

But most of their claims are false. And how does it do anything for privacy. And if you say obscures your ip address.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Just the fact that NordVPN claims to protect your privacy means that the average person hears about privacy a lot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It certainly make me feel safer against big tech snooping. Is obscuring your IP address not useful? I genuinely want to hear the arguments for and against VPNs. And if they're not effective what are better ways we can protect ourselves?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

VPNs hide your IP from your ISP and anyone they share that information with. Here in the UK ISPs keep a record of every internet connection you make and pass it on to the government and perhaps others. Using a VPN here means that instead of them knowing every single website you visit they just know you are using a VPN (or Tor, or a proxy etc if that's what you're using). All they can tell from that data is what time you're active online and how much data you upload/download, not which websites you're visiting.

The websites that you connect to at the other end can still determine who you are by means other than your IP address, like information that your machine presents to them which is unique. VPNs don't protect against this.

A VPN is like a private courier. What the recipient does with the delivered message (and what you've put in it) is out of the courier's hands.