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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

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Privacy is a team sport - how do we get more people to play? (www.rebeltechalliance.org)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This is an open question on how to get the masses to care...

Unfortunately, if other people don't protect their privacy it affects those who do, because we're all connected (e.g. other family members, friends). So it presents a problem of how do you get people who don't care, to care?

I started the Rebel Tech Alliance nonprofit to try to help with this, but we're still really struggling to convert people who have never thought about this.

(BTW you might need to refresh our website a few times to get it to load - no idea why... It does have an SSL cert!)

So I hope we can have a useful discussion here - privacy is a team sport, how do we get more people to play?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I call them normies not because I look down upon them or I hate them I do that because whenever I educate them to use privacy oriented services they mock me saying "you are crazy" "you aren't president" "nobody cares about your data" yada yada yada...

It makes me frustrated :(

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Framing "them" as fundamentally different reinforces the mental barrier that your requirements and their requirements are different. Avoid it.

[–] cardfire 5 points 3 days ago

You'd better believe marketing execs and specialists in branding will divide and conquer market segments of apathetic typical people.

Addicts in recover programs can call the general population of non-addicts 'normies'; people that have been marginalized for neurodivergent thinking often call the mainstream population of neurotypicals 'normies' etc.

Gatekeeping by commonly accepted language across diverse circles only serves for your own purity testing instead of focusing on the core issue of how to sell people on exercising their own basic self-interest.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The problem is their arguments are not wrong. Nobody does care about your data. Which makes it so hard to convince people about the dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Adult people talking like that lol

🤡

I generally tell them to put a ring camera in their bathroom and then see them get bent out of shape about they wouldn't do that because....

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I mean that is a stupid argument and probably does more to hurt your argument then help.