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[–] [email protected] 148 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The developer worked his ass off to repurpose his app to Lemmy for us.

I was more than happy to pay for his time. Hard work deserves reward. If people aren't going to pay him and use the free version, which you're welcome to, then he makes his money from ads (which pay fuck-all)

You're just a bunch of cheapskates who want to be entertained for nothing.

[–] norawibb 83 points 1 year ago (14 children)

ya went a little too far at the end there. nothing wrong with not wanting to pay a subscription fee lol. its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

Do you think professional independent developers shouldn't be paid for their work? Do you think this kind of development is effortless?

I don't understand why people keep parroting this. The app is free. It's a professionally developed app, where the quality tradeoff is either ads (which can be blocked) or your choice of ad removal payments.

This isn't some company trying to exploit the community here, this is a full time app developer who just had his livelihood completely cut off. People begged him to make a version for Lemmy, and he did. He deserves to be paid for the hours and work he put in to make it happen. You can't make an app if you can't buy food or pay rent.

And if you don't like that, then don't use it. He's never pressured users into paying, and he's never suggested everyone on Lemmy should just send him money. He isn't even spamming posts advertising the app, enthusiastic users are.

Why is everyone so upset?

[–] norawibb 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not the one who's upset. Look at the guy I replied to. I'm literally not using the app and it's not my responsibility to support the creator lol. I'm literally just saying I'm not a cheapskate because I'm not using your paid alternative.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No one is calling you a cheapskate. It's just that when you said this:

its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

...in context, it comes off as "Sync is not necessary to exist, therefore no one should pay him."

I understand what you mean now, but you worded it terribly.

And by the way, going around in the comments being unnecessarily hostile and calling people "dumbfuck" or "asshole," when they were just as confused at your poor phrasing, makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

God I'm looking forward to lemmy now.

Thank you. The social dysfunction I've been seeing here is staggering.

Been here since well... Spez spez'd. So happy to have Sync for what I can use it for and the promise of full function.

He's a good dev. This is a lot of change for this poor little instance to process as a deluge of us all geeked out at one time.

We gotta donate to the server tho. Not enough to get the app.

[–] norawibb 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one is calling you a cheapskate.

Dude read the comment I was replying to...

it comes off as "Sync is not necessary to exist, therefore no one should pay him."

I did not say any of those words. wtf. I didn't word shit terribly, you just made stuff up.

makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

Whether or not this is passive aggressive, it sounds like it is, which makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one is calling you a cheapskate.

Dude read the comment I was replying to...

He was definitely talking about people using the app and complaining that they can't have it all for free. You're not one of those people.

[–] norawibb 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The original post is about someone using a free app (the web app). They check out Sync and see that it has ads and costs money otherwise, and that cost has no regional pricing (apparently). So they continue to use the web app. It's a fair complaint and it doesn't make them a cheapskate. Doesn't have anything to do with other people's choices. Doesn't mean the dev is an evil person. It's a just a bruh moment they had.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sure, but the comment you were replying to was talking about people using the free version of sync. They didn't say people are cheapskates because they don't want to pay for an app they don't use.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why is everyone so upset?

You know why, it's because in the eyes of Lemmy users who have been here all along, launch of Sync is the start of their eternal September. I moved to reddit back in 2010 as a Digg refugee after the infamous redesign, I saw much of the same back then (down to the plethora of programming and Linux memes).

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sync isn't trying to replace all Lemmy frontends or other FOSS apps, it's trying to provide a Reddit-like experience for people who miss it.

People just find reasons to be upset, I swear.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

it’s trying to provide a Reddit-like experience for people who miss it.

Ads and all 🤣

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

If anything, the eternal September would have started when Reddit killed itself. I can't imagine people thinking it's starting now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the reason lemmy is struggling, it's mainly Linux gatekeepers and foss elitists. Along with lemmy needing a slight learning period, the community just spews toxic shit relentlessly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is struggling?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Complaining about a $20 purchase you don't have to make qualifies for "cheapskate" I think. Simply not purchasing it, or not wanting to purchase it, is fine. The difference is entitlement.

[–] norawibb 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the point of this post was the lack of regional pricing, so for them it is not a $20 purchase.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm not calling OP entitled here. Regional pricing is good and they seem to be adding it now. I'm talking about some of the more vocal opponents of the app's pricing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (12 children)

If you don't need it just don't buy it. You're bitching about someone wanting money for their hard work.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

not wanting to pay a subscription fee

It's a one-time $20. It's literally in the meme were both commenting on.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The major issue for some is regional pricing. Where I'm from lifetime costs around $110 in regional currency

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

He was implementing regional pricing this morning and looks like that should be happening today and tomorrow. I think that's part of the reason so many people love Sync since the dev is ultra responsive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

As far as I've read, that price is for both no ads and Ultra which I guess gives you more perks). For just no ads it is significantly less. For no ads in my version it's $30CAD, which is a high price but is much much less than $100+CAD

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Someone correct me but IIRC the Reddit Is Fun paid version costed way less that 20$.

I hope they release Lemmy Is Fun or something.

[–] loutr 14 points 1 year ago

Sync for reddit was also cheaper, but the market for a reddit app is much larger than Lemmy's. We'll see how boost and others will be priced, but I expect it will be pricier than the reddit version.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The RIF dev ended up going with some non-federated reddit alternative. I get it, probably a much less flooded market (we already have so many options for Lemmy). But a bummer nonetheless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The RIF dev recently released an alpha for his Tildes app, Three Cheers for Tildes. It's in an earlier state than Sync but already quite usable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (16 children)

He doesn't deserve any reward for making spyware/adware garbage. His app is at odds with the ethos of lemmy. Fuck your ad hominem.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Actually you'd be surprised how much ads can pull in. In a well optimized site you can make around $5 per user per month

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