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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

Do you think professional independent developers shouldn't be paid for their work? Do you think this kind of development is effortless?

I don't understand why people keep parroting this. The app is free. It's a professionally developed app, where the quality tradeoff is either ads (which can be blocked) or your choice of ad removal payments.

This isn't some company trying to exploit the community here, this is a full time app developer who just had his livelihood completely cut off. People begged him to make a version for Lemmy, and he did. He deserves to be paid for the hours and work he put in to make it happen. You can't make an app if you can't buy food or pay rent.

And if you don't like that, then don't use it. He's never pressured users into paying, and he's never suggested everyone on Lemmy should just send him money. He isn't even spamming posts advertising the app, enthusiastic users are.

Why is everyone so upset?

[–] norawibb 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not the one who's upset. Look at the guy I replied to. I'm literally not using the app and it's not my responsibility to support the creator lol. I'm literally just saying I'm not a cheapskate because I'm not using your paid alternative.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No one is calling you a cheapskate. It's just that when you said this:

its not a noble cause to pay some dude who made an app we dont need

...in context, it comes off as "Sync is not necessary to exist, therefore no one should pay him."

I understand what you mean now, but you worded it terribly.

And by the way, going around in the comments being unnecessarily hostile and calling people "dumbfuck" or "asshole," when they were just as confused at your poor phrasing, makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

God I'm looking forward to lemmy now.

Thank you. The social dysfunction I've been seeing here is staggering.

Been here since well... Spez spez'd. So happy to have Sync for what I can use it for and the promise of full function.

He's a good dev. This is a lot of change for this poor little instance to process as a deluge of us all geeked out at one time.

We gotta donate to the server tho. Not enough to get the app.

[–] norawibb 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one is calling you a cheapskate.

Dude read the comment I was replying to...

it comes off as "Sync is not necessary to exist, therefore no one should pay him."

I did not say any of those words. wtf. I didn't word shit terribly, you just made stuff up.

makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

Whether or not this is passive aggressive, it sounds like it is, which makes you come off as an asshole, so maybe work on that :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one is calling you a cheapskate.

Dude read the comment I was replying to...

He was definitely talking about people using the app and complaining that they can't have it all for free. You're not one of those people.

[–] norawibb 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The original post is about someone using a free app (the web app). They check out Sync and see that it has ads and costs money otherwise, and that cost has no regional pricing (apparently). So they continue to use the web app. It's a fair complaint and it doesn't make them a cheapskate. Doesn't have anything to do with other people's choices. Doesn't mean the dev is an evil person. It's a just a bruh moment they had.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but the comment you were replying to was talking about people using the free version of sync. They didn't say people are cheapskates because they don't want to pay for an app they don't use.

[–] norawibb 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i said don't need not don't use. its such a ridiculous comment to call people cheapskates. this defence of Sync is wild in these comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You said you're not using the app. I'm not defending sync, just clarifying. You're taking it personally but it wasn't actually directed at you at all.

[–] norawibb 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

im defending the people it was directed at

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Fair enough - I thought you were speaking from your own point of view because you said

I'm literally not using the app and it's not my responsibility to support the creator lol. I'm literally just saying I'm not a cheapskate because I'm not using your paid alternative.

There are lots of people out there that use sync, have always been unhappy with certain things and want certain things and aren't happy to pay for the app - in the reddit days at least. I'm sure they will be here for the lemmy app too. It's those people I took the comment to be directed at.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why is everyone so upset?

You know why, it's because in the eyes of Lemmy users who have been here all along, launch of Sync is the start of their eternal September. I moved to reddit back in 2010 as a Digg refugee after the infamous redesign, I saw much of the same back then (down to the plethora of programming and Linux memes).

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sync isn't trying to replace all Lemmy frontends or other FOSS apps, it's trying to provide a Reddit-like experience for people who miss it.

People just find reasons to be upset, I swear.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

it’s trying to provide a Reddit-like experience for people who miss it.

Ads and all 🤣

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

If anything, the eternal September would have started when Reddit killed itself. I can't imagine people thinking it's starting now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the reason lemmy is struggling, it's mainly Linux gatekeepers and foss elitists. Along with lemmy needing a slight learning period, the community just spews toxic shit relentlessly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is struggling?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

This isn’t some company trying to exploit the community here, this is a full time app developer who just had his livelihood completely cut off.

A full time app developer who likely made millions off reddit and then threw his toys out of the cot when they asked to be paid. Instead of charging a subscription fee there, he came here and added ads to his app, charges you to remove them, and added a subscription fee lol.