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Former Vice President Pence on Tuesday delivered his strongest condemnation yet of former President Trump, after his former running mate was indicted Tuesday on four criminal charges related to his efforts to cling to power and overturn the results of the 2020 election.

“Today’s indictment serves as an important reminder: anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States,” Pence wrote in a statement.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All this is about is setting his opposition to Trump in the upcoming elections. The fact that he still spouts shit like

As Americans, his candidacy means less attention paid to Joe Biden’s disastrous economic policies afflicting millions across the United States and to the pattern of corruption with Hunter,

shows he's still toeing the MAGA party line.

Trump isn't the disease he's a symptom of this pestilent political ideology.

[–] abraxas 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm curious. Is there ANY metric anywhere by which our economy is in a bad place from Biden's policies? Now that the presidential delay has settled in, we seem to be in a truly unprecedented economic skyrocket right now from everything I've been reading.

Like, I really didn't like the guy at first, but I'm having trouble faulting Biden's outcomes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember back in December when the economic data came out, my Fox News watching friends were willing to bet there would be a downward adjustment next month which never happened. I asked that exact same question to them by what metric do you not like the economic performance? No answer.

For some people, specially the ones that were young during Reagan years, they assume Democrats will be bad for the economy. It’s unfathomable to them that a democrat can be good for the economy even though over the last 30 years Republicans have been disastrous for the economy.

[–] abraxas 2 points 1 year ago

This was sort of a press against Pence, for me. I didn't see Pence as a liar OR particularly stupid, just zealous and alien to my concerns.

But you're right. The Democrats REALLY need to find a counter for Starve the Beast that doesn't compromise their ethics. It's kinda like a MLB pro playing teeball at this point how easily Starve the Beast propagates lies..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I try not to be a fan of politicians in general, but his administration is at worst a standard dem one and at best a very successful dem one. Also, for a man who came of age before most of our parents were born his administration does seem to try to enact more progressive policies than I might have expected.

Pence's dig just seems pathetic in the face of that.

[–] abraxas 2 points 1 year ago

There was once a point I thought Pence was just a brainwashed zealot who was well-meaning in his crazy way. But that Pence, as much as he terrified me in a Handmaid's Tale sort of way, is not one I would have imagined would tell bold faced lies about the economy.

As for Biden, yeah. I hate a lot of his past stances, and I hate the way he's treating progressivism (which could grow rapidly or be crushed with the last 5 years' activities), but I cannot say he's doing anything but a stellar job on the day-to-day of it all. And he does give some minor compensation to progressives, even if SCOTUS said "executive orders by Democratic presidents are unconstitutional"