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Death is inevitable but we still seem flummoxed by it happening. We have all kinds of End of Life policies and procedures which do everything possible to make life difficult for those left behind.

Our language is around loss and unexpected, and grief and being bereft.

Why do we make Death so hard to process in our community and what can we do to normalise it across society?

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[โ€“] sbv 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Can you provide examples?

From what I've seen in Canada, death is handled like a standard event:

  • Most businesses, banks, and government services have fast and convenient closing out paths when someone dies. In most cases a single phonecall/visit is enough to close an account and get the appropriate statements.

  • Lawyers follow an established path when handling wills. Unless there's contention, it's pretty easy to "finish" the will.

  • Funeral homes do an excellent job at handling the deceased's body, providing grief counseling, running the funeral, and ensuring the cemetery accepts the remains. So long as it's preplanned, the family and friends just need to show up.

  • Government policy around executing a will is generally easy to understand and work with.

  • Banks will act as executors. I'm not sure if they do a good job, but it's relatively inexpensive.

  • Health care providers do not try to prolong life for the elderly. From what I've seen, they are quick to prescribe end of life care.

  • Palliative care is handled by empathic and helpful professionals. There could be improvements in grief counseling.

  • My social group was empathic and caring. Family helped as much as possible, as did friends. I doubt this is true for everyone.

What else are you referring to, OP?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If your partner dies before you do, consider what happens to your joint mortgage, your internet, email and phone accounts, your car repayments, if it's coming out of a joint account that's suddenly frozen because one account holder has died.

What happens if your partner sets up your home network and TV subscriptions and their email account is locked because you're not the account holder.

For example, Netflix doesn't have "multiple account holders" as an option, it belongs to one person, the one who pays the bill. Neither does Google, Facebook, Disney, Amazon, Apple, or anyone else.

This is repeated across every single aspect of modern life. Your robot vacuum cleaner is linked to a single person, as are your IoT lightbulbs. It's absurd.

The list goes on, public transport payment system, car ownership, home ownership.

I know people who have had to borrow money from family and friends, just to eat food because the bank needed a death certificate after their partner died, but the process took weeks, some even months.

One person was an executor of their recently deceased parent who was required to produce the non-existent death certificate for the other parent who had died 40 years earlier. Took more than a year.

Dying during a holiday is a special form of torture for the family.

None of that is easy, convenient or handled.

Why not?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

FYI, in at least parts of Canada, a vehicle can be jointly owned by spouses.

[โ€“] sbv 1 points 3 days ago

As are mortgages, car loans, and insurance.

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