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Would have been a lot cooler if people actually voted and we would not be in this situation….
Would be cool if americans weren't fucking stupid enough to vote a literal felon into office whose promises included: removal of freedoms, removal of human rights, crashing the economy, corruption, ignoring the constitution, reintroducing overt systematic racism, more expenses for anyone not a millionaire, aligning US with the evil countries, not only distancing from but invading long time allies.
It was all there. Everyone who didn't vote, voted for randoms or voted for democrats, this is on you for not educating your fellow countrymen on why voting for trump is a bad idea. Take responsibility and use the immeasurable wealth of evidence generated every single day by the administration to convince people to see why there needs to be an urgent change.
I handed them the evidence. I used non biased AP articles. I showed them side by side comparisons of Project 2025 and Agenda 47. They ignored me and called me an extremist and an alarmist. What the fuck else could I have done?
You can not give up. Keep at it! The alarmist theories are not so alarmist now that there is evidence proving it.
If you voted Trump, I refuse to interact with you at all these days. They don't have shame. They think he's doing great. Several have been absolutely shocked when they came to me to help them with things I normally would, and I told them to get off my property before I trespass them. When they ask why, I tell them, this is what they voted for. I no longer tolerate their presence, since they are intolerant of my friends and family.
It's easy to get on your high horse on Lemmy from another continent and call all Americans stupid. Most people literally did not know those things. The spin put on those issues across the whole of mainstream media was insane, to say nothing of the outright propaganda from our largest "news" outlet, Fox. Americans have been programmed over decades. I'm willing to bet you think you're smart enough to resist propaganda but here you are believing that all Americans are willingly ignorant and willingly disconnected from the truth.
Also what the fuck are you on about saying those that that voted Democrat are to blame?
If the society is so fucked that majority votes for a felon who failed at an attempted coup and whose election promises are literal dictatorship, then yes everyone is to blame for this situation even being possible. You had 8 years.
And yes you are stupid since your domestic problems end up with you invading former allies and selling us out to the literal enemies of the free world. If that offends you, good, it should. Fix your country before you invade others or get sent to a death camp. We are happy to offer you any support possible but if you think you do not deserve to be called stupid, you need to be taken down a notch cause your stupidity fucked pretty much the entire world. PS americans have always been perceived as stupid, now we just have hard evidence. If you dont like being called stupid, stop doing stupid shit that affects everyone.
You lose all credibility blaming every person in a country, even those too young to have voted in previous elections, even those that have been using every ounce of energy to fight the system for decades, even those that have become victims of the system and live disenfranchised and forgotten. You sound bitter and hateful, when there are millions of people in the US that feel the same way. How can you be so blind as to assume all of any group is complicit? I understand the frustration, but you're misdirecting it wildly. I'm not stupid, I saw this coming, I've been fighting it as long as I've been alive, as has my community around me. "Fix your country?" We're trying. I don't control the media, I don't control the propaganda machine, and I can't educate the millions of Americans that are caught up in it. All I can do, and have been doing, is protest, vote, raise awareness, and live in active, visible defiance of the system.
Good keep going.
And own up to it as an proud american and get through this. Especially if it affects others who can't vote. Cause democracy setting electing a felon kgb asset comes with a title.
Also if your countrymen justifiably being called stupid for fucking the entire world gets you tilted, you need to toughen up if you want to make it.
The part that had me "tilted," as you put it was
It shows a general misunderstanding of the political situation in the US. This hasn't been 8 years, or 20. This has been happening since at least Reagan (the 80s), perhaps the entire history of the country, depending on how you look at it. I don't even blame every person that voted for Trump for more than being ignorant, depending on the case. Some people genuinely don't know anything but what their TV tells them and the team they've been voting for for 60 years. That makes them ignorant and misinformed, but the real evil, the source of the problem, isn't them. It's the establishment and its propaganda machine, which have been doing their thing for longer than any of us have been alive. I can't blame the average person, because that worldview is one that doesn't see a good ending where we learn and improve. Most Americans aren't stupid, they're powerless, or feel like it, and the majority of the stupid ones are being lied to and misled, not writing the culture war bullshit.
I'm the most hopeful type of person when it comes to the future. For my entire life, I've been fighting for something better and truly believing it will happen, and even I'm looking into leaving the country. We're in a dark time, and it is affecting and could continue to affect the rest of the world too. Blame isn't solving anything but our own hurt feelings. No one, when blamed, changes their mind. It entrenches them and makes them hide their heads in the sand. We need to, as a class, not as any one nation, band together against the ruling class, globally. Pointing fingers misses the point and is what the ruling class wants.
I absolutely agree that we have to band together and make it so dictatorships can't exist thorugh whatever means neccesary and raise the happyness and freedom index if humanity and the planet is to survive.
I appreciate you and agree with everything you said.
Unfortunately I don't think the person you were responding to is interested in hearing anything that will challenge their belief that all Americans are stupid and we all deserve what we have now.
OK, you're certainly not listening. You've had your mind made up for a while that the thing that is wrong with America is American citizens being stupid. It is pointless to continue this.
Have the day that you deserve.
first of all, you don't know fuck about america so STFU. we CAN'T educate anyone because our education system is in tatters and has been poisoned by the right for a long time.
religion has a stranglehold on common sense across great swaths of the flyover states and capitalism exploits that for its own benefit. the situation has been fucked for a long time, but i didn't hear you calling for bloody revolution 15 years ago, so just STFU, johnny-come-lately.
so fucking sick of spoiled europeans acting like this is all so easy to fix.
You can at least take comfort in the fact that most of those same European countries will also fall to fascism in the next 10-15 years. Everyone thinks it can't happen to them, even when it already is.
We're talking down to you cause you have directly fucked us along with yourself with your inability to run your own country. I'm glad your upset, you should be. You're gonna be hell lot more upset when your friends are dragged off to death camp or when you are loaded onto a truck and forcibly drafted to go fight against your former allies in checks notes greenland.
2nd amendment is protected by the constitution and you have a better chance of winning the legal battle after ending tyranny by decapitating the government than you do surviving rest of the trumps 20 year term.
That's funny because it's been pretty quiet about all of you gun nuts actually growing a pair and doing something.
Do it then, make the news.
we all have to do it to be effective. you have nothing to lose by agreeing and boosting this message. when we reach a tipping point, they won't be able to stop us. it's not just rhetoric. there's a purpose to my message.
I would agree with you if showing up to vote was as simple as just showing up. I’d wager that the majority of people who could safely vote, did. There are many reasons why voters can’t be the sole scapegoat here.
One of the biggest reasons— Voting isn’t safe for everyone.
How would you feel about going to vote if you heard there’s been bomb threats and “private security” turning away people at your polling place? Mail-in ballot you say? Okay sure, but have you heard of poison postcards? What about all the data from after the election that shows how many ballots were unjustly thrown out or went uncounted due to some other form of voter suppression? I voted but have no way of realistically knowing if my vote was counted or altered.
I don’t think voters are the main reason the US is in its current position. Let’s set aside the blame game and look at the people who are truly responsible— the current administration and especially those who fund it. Let’s hold them responsible first.
I linked the website of a nonpartisan project that’s looking at the 2024 election data for fraud. They’ve got a hand re-count lawsuit in progress for Rockland County, NY right now.
We have to educate ourselves and each other since the current administration has made it clear that they’re opposed to education and critical thinking skills. There are many of us and together our voices and actions are loud enough to take this country back.
https://smartelections.us/2024-election-update
Let's be real, a ton of people were at home on their phone when they realized it's election day and said , my vote wont matter and then went back to doing what they are doing .
So many people just actively were too lazy to vote, let's not give them an excuse.
People probably did vote, they probably cheated
In swing states, where the election was decided, voter turnout was roughly unchanged between 2020 and 2024 presidential elections. So you can stop blaming disenfranchised voters.