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It's easy to get on your high horse on Lemmy from another continent and call all Americans stupid. Most people literally did not know those things. The spin put on those issues across the whole of mainstream media was insane, to say nothing of the outright propaganda from our largest "news" outlet, Fox. Americans have been programmed over decades. I'm willing to bet you think you're smart enough to resist propaganda but here you are believing that all Americans are willingly ignorant and willingly disconnected from the truth.
Also what the fuck are you on about saying those that that voted Democrat are to blame?
If the society is so fucked that majority votes for a felon who failed at an attempted coup and whose election promises are literal dictatorship, then yes everyone is to blame for this situation even being possible. You had 8 years.
And yes you are stupid since your domestic problems end up with you invading former allies and selling us out to the literal enemies of the free world. If that offends you, good, it should. Fix your country before you invade others or get sent to a death camp. We are happy to offer you any support possible but if you think you do not deserve to be called stupid, you need to be taken down a notch cause your stupidity fucked pretty much the entire world. PS americans have always been perceived as stupid, now we just have hard evidence. If you dont like being called stupid, stop doing stupid shit that affects everyone.
You lose all credibility blaming every person in a country, even those too young to have voted in previous elections, even those that have been using every ounce of energy to fight the system for decades, even those that have become victims of the system and live disenfranchised and forgotten. You sound bitter and hateful, when there are millions of people in the US that feel the same way. How can you be so blind as to assume all of any group is complicit? I understand the frustration, but you're misdirecting it wildly. I'm not stupid, I saw this coming, I've been fighting it as long as I've been alive, as has my community around me. "Fix your country?" We're trying. I don't control the media, I don't control the propaganda machine, and I can't educate the millions of Americans that are caught up in it. All I can do, and have been doing, is protest, vote, raise awareness, and live in active, visible defiance of the system.
Good keep going.
And own up to it as an proud american and get through this. Especially if it affects others who can't vote. Cause democracy setting electing a felon kgb asset comes with a title.
Also if your countrymen justifiably being called stupid for fucking the entire world gets you tilted, you need to toughen up if you want to make it.
The part that had me "tilted," as you put it was
It shows a general misunderstanding of the political situation in the US. This hasn't been 8 years, or 20. This has been happening since at least Reagan (the 80s), perhaps the entire history of the country, depending on how you look at it. I don't even blame every person that voted for Trump for more than being ignorant, depending on the case. Some people genuinely don't know anything but what their TV tells them and the team they've been voting for for 60 years. That makes them ignorant and misinformed, but the real evil, the source of the problem, isn't them. It's the establishment and its propaganda machine, which have been doing their thing for longer than any of us have been alive. I can't blame the average person, because that worldview is one that doesn't see a good ending where we learn and improve. Most Americans aren't stupid, they're powerless, or feel like it, and the majority of the stupid ones are being lied to and misled, not writing the culture war bullshit.
I'm the most hopeful type of person when it comes to the future. For my entire life, I've been fighting for something better and truly believing it will happen, and even I'm looking into leaving the country. We're in a dark time, and it is affecting and could continue to affect the rest of the world too. Blame isn't solving anything but our own hurt feelings. No one, when blamed, changes their mind. It entrenches them and makes them hide their heads in the sand. We need to, as a class, not as any one nation, band together against the ruling class, globally. Pointing fingers misses the point and is what the ruling class wants.
I absolutely agree that we have to band together and make it so dictatorships can't exist thorugh whatever means neccesary and raise the happyness and freedom index if humanity and the planet is to survive.
I appreciate you and agree with everything you said.
Unfortunately I don't think the person you were responding to is interested in hearing anything that will challenge their belief that all Americans are stupid and we all deserve what we have now.
OK, you're certainly not listening. You've had your mind made up for a while that the thing that is wrong with America is American citizens being stupid. It is pointless to continue this.
Have the day that you deserve.