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In glad you don't have loans. Some people are not able to get higher education without loans due to a variety of factors. I don't know why you're comfortable calling what are likely teenagers gullible or ignorant when the loans are predatory by nature, and are likely handling their very first "adult" purchase.
Education should not only be accessible to the wealthy. Middle class America has bailed out the banks, companies "too big" to fail, even other countries. Middle class America paid for PPP loans and forgiveness. We have bailed out billionaires over and over, but college is crossing the line?
I want my taxes to pay for education. And not just education that "makes sense." I want to pay for one kid's gender studies with a minor in dead languages, as well as the kid going for oncology. I don't want anyone to question getting an education because of the price. An educated society is an investment for everyone. The American people are deserving of the taxes that they pay into.
this is a great way to put it. I grew up isolated from culture, from the world, and from the personality, curiosity and interests that kind of exposure can give - and now that I'm knee deep in adulting, I don't know how I would go about learning more about culture and humanity, especially since I'm stuck working full time to keep the lights on (and pay my student loans).
If I felt that I could do a bachelor's in gender studies or social sciences, I would. I wouldn't expect it to make me rich, and I'm already a network engineer and systems geek, so that pays the bills anyway - but I'd do it because I think that's something that would make me a more balanced person, and that would make my work better as a result.
I think we should go much further: Being educated should be a JOB. We pay the students, so that they focus on learning. Provided this grade-based income is less than a "real" job, they will naturally migrate into the workforce.
This will undoubtedly require a major rethinking on what an economy is, how it works, and why it should exist in the first place. But I think we are close to American Capitalism being milked dead, so we should start thinking of new approaches for whatever is to come after the fall.
That's an awesome idea! It would make it so much easier for people.
There's also the fact that students fully know they're getting screwed but you don't have a choice in this country
And the insane thing is, that is proven in case after case and should be one of the core tenants of any society. It’s just that - if you make them dumb, squeeze them only a little at a time, and tell them it’s not your fault - you can get more profit for yourself. And we, as Americans, haven’t been squeezed enough to break free.
Paying off their loans for fix the cost of education crisis. It kicks it down the road for our children to fix. With added costs since we've set a precedent that it will be forgiven. Advocating for student debt forgiveness is advocating for throwing fuel on the fire.
Any payoff without a meaningful plan to fix the root cause is robbery of the middle and lower class by upper middle class and upper class children with a predisposition to high income.
How does forgiving debt help rich people? They aren't the ones burdened by it.
The idea is it would be forgiven and then education would be free or highly subsidized. It's middle class and lower class that are hardest hit by these loans as it is. Upper class children either don't need the loans or take our less. Yes, it's frustrating to be customer 99 instead of 100, but, I mean, grow up. Education is planting seeds in a garden we'll likely not live to see, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't till the soil just so the next generation has it as difficult as we did. Taxes are going up as it is, I would rather it at least be going towards something meaningful for a change. Free education. Free health care. I'm already paying for it. You're already paying for it. I want what we paid for.
God bless you and your ability to give such a gracious answer.
PPP loan forgiveness already happened, so why should they be the only ones?