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Discord was already succumbing to enshitification. Now with their intention to be owned by Wall Street, that trajectory will certainly accelerate at warp speed once the change of hands happens.

Anyone already get ahead of this and find a solid alternative?

Right now I'm on the fence between Element for Matrix, and Revolt. Both seem to have their pros and cons and I can't find a clear "winner".

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[–] Enkers 28 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

The problem is that performant screenshare (to multiple users) more or less requires infrastructure. That requires money, and it's impossible to compete on price with services that have the VC-enshitification model.

You can get around this in a few ways, but they're all tradeoffs that are in some way or other worse than discord.

  • P2P - sacrifice latency, reliability
  • direct multi-stream - sacrifice PC performance and/or bitrate
  • paid infrastructure - sacrifice money
[–] [email protected] 24 points 21 hours ago

I think P2P is still the way to go. Sure it's not perfect, but it's simpler and by it's very nature doesn't require the infrastructure we know will be a problem.

Plus, don't forget screen sharing in discord isn't very good as is (720p30) if you're not a paid user.