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Discord was already succumbing to enshitification. Now with their intention to be owned by Wall Street, that trajectory will certainly accelerate at warp speed once the change of hands happens.

Anyone already get ahead of this and find a solid alternative?

Right now I'm on the fence between Element for Matrix, and Revolt. Both seem to have their pros and cons and I can't find a clear "winner".

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

man I wish mumble had a better interface and a chat function, it could real FOSS competition with Discord, but the lack of a chat feature is holding it back

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Started hosting a mumble server for gaming maybe six months ago and have been using it daily. Really happy with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't have a guild to host for anymore, but I used to host one years ago and it was solid as a rock. I am glad mumble is still going strong

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's so much easier to set up and install than Matrix.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It’s so much easier to set up and install than Matrix.

Unbelievably so. Mumble is... basically one setup command. Don't even need a domain. And it needs absolutely no resources, can run on a Pi Zero.
Setting up my own Matrix server was honestly one of the most difficult things I've ever attempted in decades of non-professionally using computers and I'm still not sure I'd be able to properly take care of the installation if it breaks. Sooo many moving parts. All the federation-oriented projects that rely on adoption rates reaaaaally desperately need setup wizards before any other additional feature.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

I've set up Lemmy, Forgejo, Nextcloud and Mastodon. Forgejo is unbelievably easy, Mastodon and Lemmy both are complex but if you follow the instructions you get there pretty quickly.

Matrix is like "Follow a book of documentation, then when it doesn't work anyway, spend hours of your life troubleshooting a bunch of stuff that's NOT in the documentation. Why is this so hard?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

Sounds like this is part of their business plan. Make hosting it so onerous, you're better-off using their servers, or paying them to do it for you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

You forgetting the part where the server starts using crazy resources because you entered the main Matrix chat. Does the server need to send you everything that's ever been said? Apparently yes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

that and screen sharing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

There's no text chat in mumble? Really? (I seem to remember otherwise, sorry)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago

There is text chat but it’s not persistent, or very customizable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Its been ages for me, so I may be incorrect now. I think the chat is not persistent and I am pretty sure there is no channels. Its most definitely not set up how discord is where its more of a chat client that has voice rather than a voice client that has chat.