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[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Support for chasers and sex-pests like Vaush is pretty awful, not to mentions his awful politics and constant butchering of Marxist theory for an audience that usually can't tell the difference.

Theory is important. Much of my list is newer, some is older when it holds up, some is newer when it meaningfully adds to the discussion. However, as someone who had your approach, reading theory directly genuinely is much faster than rolling the dice.

I have audiobooks linked as well that people can listen to if they prefer, and importantly they won't be distorted by a sex-pest who complains about Marxists constantly while misrepresenting them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I am pretty familiar with Vaush's arguments on Marxist theory. What are your points of contention?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The vast majority of them, to be honest. He has no grasp of Dialectical and Historical Materialism, has no knowledge of AES, and horrendously distorts Lenin.

He's a liberal that cosplays an Anarchist and pretends to have beyond a Wikipedia understanding of Marxism.

That's, of course, ignoring that he's a chaser, pedophile, sex offender.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

He has no grasp of Dialectical and Historical Materialism

Can you list a specific example? I think he has a good understanding of this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

One of the worst issues is when he depicts AES as "not real Socialism" because they contain contradictions, when Dialectical Materialism shows that all systems contain contradictions and must resolve them, that doesn't mean they aren't that system. Ie, Capitalist states contain public ownership, which is a contradiction but does not define the system.

One of the recent and larger-scale issues was when he tried to explain Lenin advocated voting Socialism into existence.

I don't make it a point to hate-watch sex offenders that do the work of the US state department.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I am not surprised that you have disagreements behind Lenin and AES. The two are pretty related and hard to pull apart. I was just surprised that you would disagree with any of his Marxist takes. I think you both agree what the problems are from a Marxist perspective.

As for the sex offenders/sex pest stuff. I don't think he is those things, but I understand I am just one person. From the stuff I have seen it is mostly people that disagree with him that label him as such as a way to get around the fact they don't really have a leg to stand on; Fascists and the like. Not saying that is you of course.

Thanks for taking the time to talk this though by the way. I figure you get hit with a lot of stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Vaush has to, by virtue of his profession, at least pretend to know what he's talking about with Marxism, so it can seem convincing. The issue is that it is abundantly clear every time he makes a mistake to anyone who takes theory seriously, yet that isn't Vaush's target audience, who are mainly western liberals and occasionally pro-US Anarchists.

That's why I recommend reading theory, the only way to be 100% sure is to go the source.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Where can I find audiobooks you talked about? My app probably doesn't show your userpage right.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

I have audiobook links after each listed work.