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[โ€“] BrundleFly2077 28 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Serious question. Whoโ€™s the alternative to Spotify?

[โ€“] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The french Qobuz. Has close to perfect 1 to 1 match with content in my experience, and it has a service to help you transfer all playlists

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Ooooh, didn't know about the playlist transfer, I've got to dig into that!

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'm looking at the reviews and they're not good. Apparently tracks just disappear from one day to the next, searching doesn't work, bad UI, hi res downloads often don't work, cancellations are being ignored, etc.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Never had any of those problems

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Funny, because I have all those problems with Spotify! I mean, search works, but only for well known music, and every once in a while one of the tracks in my playlist will just be grayed out and unplayable.

[โ€“] BrundleFly2077 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

They have a free trial, so it's easy to find out. :)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Spotify is also not good.

They arbitrarily mute playing albums instead of Spotify playlists and you can't unmute them until you skip forward or backwards.

Downloads are a total shit show to SD cards even though it has been logged as a bug for around 8+ years.

They insert AI-generated bullshit slop into Spotify playlists to avoid having to pay royalties. Especially in ambient music playlists or jazz where people are less likely to notice.

They pay artists one of the lowest (Pandora is lowest) in the industry and have arbitrary threshold to not pay artists until they hit a certain amount of streams per month. Then when they hit that threshold, they don't back-pay them for total streams, but instead begin counting streams for payment after that threshold that resets monthly.

They partner with AI "battlefield tracking" companies trying to build the tracking machine from "the dark knight". Hmm, I wonder if they will use their app in the future to further their partners' goals?

They give a bunch of money to very right wing organizations.

Really the only good thing about Spotify is Spotify connect.

[โ€“] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lidarr, Jellyfin, and Music Assistant

[โ€“] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok but serious question, I don't want to personally manage my music library on a server. For movies and TV this is fine, I consume a couple of these a day but if I want a steady stream of new music streaming apps have made all this very easy and very convenient.

When my 4 year old yells out in the car for a specific song, will these cover it?

[โ€“] BrundleFly2077 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I might be in the wrong place for this sentiment, but I also seriously want to pay for my music.

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Buy directly from the band to support them because streaming services pay pennies. That's my excuse to buy merch from artists I love. Concert ticket sales don't have very high margins, either.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] BrundleFly2077 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I can survive using a different service for my podcasts. So this sounds like a good shout. But Iโ€™m impressed by the fact they supposedly have as many tracks as Spotify.

Will chase this down.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think using anotger service for podcasts is important. Podcasts are free, but Spotify has been trying to hijack the scene and ruin it for everyone.

Personally I like AntennaPod.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

AntennaPod is great, been using it for about 6 months

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

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[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago
[โ€“] kalistia 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not available in my country (eu)

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] BrundleFly2077 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What the actual fuck? How did I not know about this? I meanโ€ฆ I want to pay for my music streaming, but for downloads this has changed my fucking life.

THANK. YOU.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] BrundleFly2077 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wut, bud? Haha. I donโ€™t understand the question.

Edit: I mean Lucida is service I didnโ€™t know existed and I will now use. I dunno if that helps

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Jep, I wanted to know which of those two got you that excited

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[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Buying from, and supporting the artist directly, IMO.

Many European metal bands host their own webshop selling their merchandise, records, cassettes and CDs; many small and independent musicians sell their songs on Bandcamp (US based website that does take a cut from each payment, 15% I believe goes to Bandcamp, so that is something to keep in mind)

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, the benefit of streaming services is not being able to listen to music legally. It's discovery. Playing a song I like and getting recommended a similar song turn an artist I've never heard of has introduced me to a lot of great music. That's not something you can replicate by going to the webshop of your favorite band and buying their newest album.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's something you could recreate with a scrobbling service like last.fm (don't use last.fm though, they are owned by CBS).

A quick Google search leads me to ListenBrains, which is also American, but operated by a non-profit.

I've used neither service and my music listening habits never relied on algorithmic recomendations, so I could totally be talking out of my ass here. But it could be worth a look.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The problem there is that scrobblers aren't nearly as convenient as a streaming service. With a scrobbler I have to actively check out recommendations. With a streaming service I can just have it play related songs until I get one I really like.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I find Bandcamp at least a great way to discover especially smaller musicians!

But I totally get what you mean, though. You can't have that experience buying from artist's sites.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I prefer Pandora's algorithm for music. But I haven't looked into their skeletons yet.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just noticed what community this is. Pandora might also be US-based.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I believe they are owned by siriusXM since like 2019

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Does anyone here remember radio?

[โ€“] BrundleFly2077 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fuck. I remember taping radio.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You'd have your favorite mix tape with a bunch of radio announcer clips because they kept talking over the song intros

[โ€“] BrundleFly2077 3 points 2 months ago

Drove me INSANE this fucker yapping over the end of Black hole sun. I NEARLY had a clean record, you bastard.

[โ€“] DannyBoy 3 points 2 months ago

Radio has been mostly bought out by corporations which seem to air more ads than music.

I've got a college radio station for alt rock in my area though that has great music with lots of variety and very few ads.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Web Radio still exists. I use Shortwave for tuning in.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I still buy my music song by song from iTunes (I haven't done it since before the drumpfster came to power), I don't rent my music.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Spotube uses Spotify and gets the music from YouTube. It's a little slow.