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Signal is the No. 1 downloaded app in the Netherlands. But why? (techcrunch.com)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why are you licensing your comment?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But why do you want to license it at all? It's normally not licensed. When AI vendors break the law they don't care about licenses. Fuck, look at meta.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hmm, did you read the links I posted?

Sure, what meta did is fucked up, but they are being sued. Just because someone ignores the law, does that mean that we should just stop doing something?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, it did not answer my question. Legally you don't have to do anything to make it so corporations legally can't use this for AI unless you signed away your rights and if you signed away your rights you can't change the license back with a notice. So what's it actually for?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I should probably write a blog post about it. Basically it's there to possibly get commercial LLMs in trouble for scraping licensed stuff. LLMs have been tricked into revealing their training data and gotten in trouble for that. There are also ongoing lawsuits due to those revelations. Maybe the most notable is the one against ~~Github's~~ Microsoft's CoPilot for spitting out licensed (GPL and also copyrighted from private repos) code.

Whether the lawsuits will be successful or not is yet to be determined (Japan already considers nearly everything fair game for training AIs and machine learning). Whether they will have an impact if they are successful is also unknown. It just costs me a key-stroke (and the occasional response to a friendly question like yours), so I do it 🤷 Once all my hope is lost, I might stop.

From another answer. I highlighted the important part, which explains why the explicit link to the license text instead of it being implicit.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I see, so it's just a 🤞 maybe this will be useful in court later thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Yep! You got it 👍 It probably won't, but it costs me all of a few milliseconds to a few seconds. I'm a cynic, but not a defeatist.

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