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Ontario Premier Doug Ford warned that Canada could cut electricity exports to the U.S. in retaliation for Donald Trump’s new tariffs on Canadian goods.

The U.S. imposed a 25% tariff on most Canadian imports, citing border security concerns. Ford emphasized that U.S. states like New York and Michigan rely on Canadian energy and should “feel the pain.”

Canadian officials also announced $155 billion in counter-tariffs.

If enacted, energy restrictions would likely raise prices in the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the two countries.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Let the southern bastards freeze in the dark...not permanently, just a brief period, followed by an export tax. Cut power once in March, then again throughout the NBA playoffs in April.

At this point we should do this whether or not Trump reverses course. Make it clear there is nothing he can do to avoid it.

I'm sick of this market fuckery back and forth. I'm convinced he's trying to depress the Canadian dollar and the value of Canadian companies and industries, so that oligarchs in the US can buy them up. It's a hostile corporate takeover of our country. Fuck him, we need to go hard - permanent tariffs as long as Trump is in office...and we need legislation to ensure 51% Canadian ownership of strategic resources, as well as no American investment right now. If necessary, we need to nationalize strategic resources and industries.

What we don't need is a fucking tax break for the rich. We're on a war footing right now and our leaders need to accept this. The people have largely accepted it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think he actually cares about Canada specifically. The point is to alienate the US from its allies and reduce any kind of powerful diplomatic mediators or military deterrents so Russia and similar traditionally colonial powers can just start seizing whatever territory they want.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I think there are two things he wants here..and by "things he wants" I mean things that will make him and/or his wealthy oligarch buddies rich and grow their power.

The first and more near-term goal is the upcoming tax cuts for the rich, which will be trillions of dollars. To fund this, he sees at least three vehicles, that he has been pushing despite the failings of all three: (1) savings from DOGE, (2) the new gold visas, and (3) tariff income. All of these ideas are absolutely dogshit for creating income, but he seems to think they will. In his previous time in office, he even tried to use tariffs in this way. He sees tariffs as income and he's made it clear. He knows the tax cuts will be hugely unpopular so he has to build up a story as to how they can be afforded. In the meantime if a bunch of rich short sellers make money off of market manipulation, so much the better.

The second goal, and probably more in line with the objectives of the oligarchy in the US as a whole, is to make Canada even more subservient economically to the US. They want a quiet corporate takeover of Canada. They want to depress the value then but it all up, after which we're even more fucked than we are now. We need to cut this option off and just accept that we need to nationalize these industries, and restrict or even exclude American investment. I think the Canadian government should own at least 51% of key strategic resources, such as telecom, oil, hydro, potash, and media.

In summary, the Americans are now our enemies and should be considered as such. They want to damage our country and assume control of it. They are outright saying this. We need to stop being so fucking naive, and take solid action to prevent it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

So Trump is not acting based on goals he has for the US, he is acting on goals for the global oligarchy, doesn't matter if you're a Canadian or US billionaire he wants you to be able to continue exploiting.

If putting Canada under the jurisdiction of a more compliant country like the US makes that easier great, if instead the conservative parties in Canada can be propped up great. You have plenty of MAGAs in Canada, They're not just in the US, so we all could do some house cleaning. The US is just the cautionary tale.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Southern states are not the ones receiving the bulk of Canada’s energy coming into the United States.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/mapping-us-canada-energy-relationship

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think they meant southern states. All the states are south of Canada

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ahhhhhh shit. Ameribrain at it again. Thanks for pointing that out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

I remember going to Niagara. It was summer and kinda not all that hot. Home was in the 90's. It pinged my brain, this is like a heatwave to these people....