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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What happens if a NATO country Attack another NATO country?

[โ€“] freebee 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No joke, I can see UK and France offering nuclear retaliation response promise to Canada, outside of NATO. I think trump really is dumb enough to start real war with for example Canada. NATO is dead, rest of the west needs to make similar protection agreements without USA, besides NATO , for when shit really hits the fan (I think it will, it's a matter of when, not if).

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, article 5 doesn't apply then. Other agreements may still apply.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course it applies! Where are you getting that it doesn't from?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

From article 5 from the NATO treaty actually. It states that it applies to attacks from external actors, i.e. non-members.

Edit: the article or nato treaty doesn't state it that explicitly actually. But a quick google show that it's at least the consensus interpretation

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It has been hotly debated, mostly in regards to Greece and Tรผrkiye, who have been at each other's throats for decades. In that case, the aggressor likely wouldn't be obvious and both are likely to claim article 5. Their relations to other NATO members are also a lot more ambiguous, some favoring one, some the other.

In the case of a rogue USA attacking Canada, or Denmark, I believe the case would be a lot clearer.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

it states that it applies to attacks from external actors, i.e. non-members

Which America would be if they leave NATO...