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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s their job to convince voters to vote for them.

And it's the voters DUTY to inform themselves responsibly and make the best choice for the welfare of their nation. American voters failed to do so.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We can't do anything about that, wagging your finger at voters will not accomplish anything. But we CAN do something about the party itself, the candidate, and the campaign strategy.

Fixating on things we can't change is a way to deflect from having actual productive conversations about things that we can change. It's a way for the DNC to avoid taking responsibility.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We can’t do anything about that, wagging your finger at voters will not accomplish anything.

If we can't do anything about American voters being complacent and lazy and not doing their civic duty responsibly, then we have, and will continue to have, way bigger problems than a party not being good at promoting themselves. And, oh look, we are.

We can't just keep ignoring the source of our problem. People HAVE to get responsibly engaged in politics if we want out of this situation. Otherwise, even if Dems get better at messaging, we'll just slingshot back to where we are now if they stop being good at it again.

Apparently it's going to take a lot of pain and suffering for Americans to become more responsible voters. If it's even possible at this point.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

the way to compell voters is through education, livable wages, and a prosperous life. it is an inherent catch 22.

you cannot blame a victim of propaganda that they were propagandised. especially if they are a dumb fuck

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is a candidate's job to convince voters to vote for them. That is what campaigning is. Sitting here and wagging your finger, on the other hand, is not campaigning.

We cannot tie the entire US electorate down and force them to "be more responsible". That is not a useful or productive way to look at the problem. If that is all you fixate on, you have no actionable solution out of it.

But what we can do is run better candidates with a better campaign, that will inspire voters to want to vote for them. That is how it works, that has always been how it works, and if we ignore that, we will lose in 2028.

The point I am making here is that we need to talk about things we can actually do something about, instead of shutting down the conversation by deflecting to things we cannot do anything about.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Your "we" here is weird to me.

Most of us aren't party executives but most of us are voters, with friends and family who are voters.

What I say on lemmy is never read by the DNC, but is read by voters.

Claiming that I can't do anything about what voters do whilst I can do something about the Democratic leadership is so very very inaccurate.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Democrats are made of people. If you believe people can’t change, we’re fucked anyway. Thankfully, I believe you’re wrong.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

the DNC is made of lobby money full stop.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

In other words, it's the voter's duty to perform a communist revolution. How well are you personally performing your duty, comrade?