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[–] [email protected] 287 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Oh FFS. Not Brother as well. I used to recommend them to everyone. Who is left with unshittified printers?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Kyocera.

Also Japanese, and plenty of cheap generic toners available online. They even publish Linux drivers.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Epson inkjets with refillable tanks probably.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

That printer is a nightmare. But financially makes sense.

[–] Gullible 89 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Depending on the frequency of your printing, they can suck as well. Chronically clogged nozzles are maddening.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can run a power clean cycle which should help, then just replace the foam pads they saturate with ink for the cleaning

They're not perfect but they're still the most consumer friendly option on the market at this point

[–] Gullible 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

After talking to support 15 times, they never suggested replacing anything, and power clean wasn’t enough. I’ve long since destroyed the thing out of malignant rage and turned to libraries and copy shops, but it’s good to know that there might have been a solution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Aliexpress syringe cleaning kit

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wait until copy shops start raising their prices cause nobody has printers anymore and you have no choice but to use them

[–] Gullible 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Still cost me less than a new printer every two years if they multiplied their prices by 10.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

yup and your not using a printer every single day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

a personal printer/ink is far more expensive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Not for me, 40€ toner cartridge gets me 10k pages, already have over 80k pages printed so the printer paid itself multiple times compared to a copyshop

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's true. That was a pain in the ass when my wife needed good color accuracy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This. My partner’s office is stuck with “it has to be inkjet and not toner", and on January their printer got clogged…

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Inkjet is great, for photo printing regularly. For absolutely every other situation a laser printer is better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

ink jet ones are so messy, and it waste a ton of ink.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I have the 2850. Been using it for a couple years now. Print maybe once a month. Nozzles get clogged periodically but you run the automated cleaning process and it's back to working again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't print that often but I do have a calendar event to tell me to print something monthly. This could be a nice side project for someone to write a program that sends a print to your printer on a schedule to keep the heads clear. Wastes paper but at least the heads won't dry out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I reuse old paper when I do this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The printer has the same ink problems, clogged, runs out easy, can't print b&w when missing a color. But I can buy random ink.

[–] atomicbocks 4 points 1 day ago

Did they ever make the excess ink parts user replaceable?

That they weren’t in some models kept me from getting one when I was in the market a few years ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

ill have to recommend buying old refurbished printers

[–] Hideakikarate 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know if it matters, but I just bought a Canon laser printer. Didn't see anywhere about forced subscription options for toner.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

we bought laser canon printer to, toner cartridge doesnt use color, so if you want color you would need an ink printer, its better to print a library or a printer shop anyways. we are using an MF class one?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a color canon laser printer scanner.

[–] Hideakikarate 2 points 1 day ago

That's actually what I bought, too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t at all feel vindicated, but my Brother printer is the worst printer I ever owned (this was 20 years ago admittedly). Absolute hunk of junk with nothing but problems. I’ve always wondered why they were so well recommended online.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Could have been a Friday afternoon one. The one I have is a workhorse that could print on bark using toner made of charcoal and dust.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

use a laser printer? preferabally the ones that doesnt use updates or any newer versions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've got a Lexmark laser printer, and while there are cheaper subscription toners, you can pay the higher price for normal toner, and buy compatibles, for now at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

you seem to have gotten a smart printer, new ones have that one, we got a canon laser.