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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Browsers I tried yesterday (on Linux):

  • Zen: neat, but the UI is too different for my taste
  • Floorp: also neat, but features I don't use
  • Waterfox: sweet spot for me

Librewolf and Waterfox seem pretty similar on paper. I went with Waterfox cuz idk. So far, Waterfox seems to be a drop-in replacement. I haven't noticed any problems with websites and haven't run into any bugs.

One note about Waterfox is that I would have liked if it was added to the official Arch Linux repos. I installed fine with the AUR, but still.

Bonus: Waterfox is available on Android! πŸ₯³

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

One note about Waterfox is that I would have liked if it was added to the official Arch Linux repos. I installed fine with the AUR, but still.

Available on Flathub.

I tend to go with Flathub before the AUR, if available. πŸ‘

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I tend to go with Flathub before the AUR, if available.

This is the correct way to Linux in 2025

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Cool. Could you elaborate? Because I only do this because of some kind of gut feeling... πŸ˜…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Flatpaks are containerized, making them both more reliable and more secure (in general... but it's always possible to fuck things up).

Besides the benefits to users, there are also huge benefits to developers: they can publish a single package and support nearly every distro with it.

It's often impossible for a dev to publish and maintain packages for all Linux distros out there, so stuff on AUR is built and packaged by well-meaning, but random people who are not the original developer. This very often leads to the app having bugs and compatibility issues which the developer ends up wasting time debugging and trying to fix even though it's not their fault. (although downstream packagers can fuck this up too by publishing their own unofficial Flatpaks, like Fedora's recent OBS shenanigans)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Oh yeah, the OBS thing. Yeah, I guess these are the reasons I've felt like Flatpaks are a bit more stable than AUR packages. They might take up more space or whatever, but it's nice to know they work like they're supposed to, especially commercial stuff like Spotify and Slack etc. I just wish Flatpak software integrated better with the rest of the system without extra configuration.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Zen: is Firefox

Floorp: is Firefox

Waterfox: is Firefox

Librewolf: is Firefox

They are all dependent on Mozilla and its choices.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

There is currently no comptetive engine that isn’t owned/developed by a big company. Ladybird is slowly getting there, but it’s gonna take a while. Until then gecko engine is OK for now. It’s all opensource so we know when that’s no longer the case.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 14 hours ago

There is some degree of independence. For example, if Mozilla releases some super evil patch tomorrow, I'm pretty sure everyone would just patch it out immediately. In fact, this is what most derivatives seem to do, patch out the ad/telemetry stuff.

But yeah, these are all modified Firefox browsers. Hopefully, nobody was thinking these were unique, new, browsers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 13 hours ago

No, being a fork doesn't mean it's the same browser.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Try Mullvad browser, it works well in my opinion. It should be used with a VPN (i.e. shared IP address space) though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I like Zen for its different interface. I like having a built-in vertical tab bar. It's not as focused on privacy and security as Librewolf is, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

I found waterfox on aurora store android and below this stores page it lists trackers found: Mozilla telemetry, Sentry. What is the point if it gives Mozilla the same data? Or is this not whst i think it is?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

Is Zen still a safe bet? I’m using it currently and quite like it actually so I’m hoping it’s still a good option. I just frankly am pretty ignorant of all this browser shenanigans.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One note about Waterfox is that I would have liked if it was added to the official Arch Linux repos. I installed fine with the AUR, but still.

Same for LibreWolf.

Bonus: Waterfox is available on Android! πŸ₯³

I was thinking I should ditch android FF, too...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Ironfox is a solid alternative there too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

There is also Epiphany. browser with the webkit engine.