World News
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News [email protected]
Politics [email protected]
World Politics [email protected]
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
view the rest of the comments
Ned Flanders' parents are essentially the democratic party personified. You're trying to wash their hands of blame because "Have fun dealing with the Republicans on this now!" but democrats did absolutely nothing to court voters during the election. On the economy, the biggest issue of the election, they lectured people who were struggling to afford necessities with "well ackshully the stock market and GDP" which has nothing to do with the average American's finances. Even now democrats use "egg prices" as a shorthand to mock people who cannot afford groceries and who might've voted republican.
It's literally "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" as a platform. All they can do is point at republicans, like you are doing now, and shriek about how bad things are going to get while they allow it to happen. Remember how they shrieked about how bad trump was and how much we have to defeat trump during the 2020 election? They went on and on about how many illegal things trump did and then when they got into office, they put in the milquetoast merrick garland as attorney general who did NOTHING for four years. Now we have trump again.
You can't just dismiss this as "that's in the past" because democrats will continue being spineless losers until the end of time because that is their role in this puppet show that the rich put on for us to make us think we have a choice in the matter with this sham of a "democracy".
Man, we've had this discussion a time or two already here on lemmy after you've jumped in after these guys who make it clear they're proud of not voting and you never seem to get that one can hold the Democratic party overall as ineffective jackasses and yet still realize that Republicans are worse in every conceivable way and get all upset when you're both sides everything, acting like Oprah with "you're a genocider and you're a genocider", call everyone a Nazi when only one side is actually doing salute in pubic viewpoints gets shit on. If you're proud of your vote for Trump or not vote for Harris over the Gaza situation then fine, want to continue to teach Democrats a lesson sure, that's your prerogative but you also have to deal with the fall out that is reality now.
Also, you can say what you will about Democrats, they suck. Yeah they do. That they're ineffective. Yeah, I'm tired of Jefferies and Shumer talking about bipartisanship too. But if you actually think that Democrats are no better than MAGA and their polices are no different and you refuse to vote then your opinion holds no weight and you're not living in any type of reality here, all you have to look at is DOGE, his cabinet members.
You want the Democrats to change then fucking vote in the primaries and back a progressive but when you don't get your candidate, don't throw a kiddie tantrum and not vote and spout off both sides nonsense and sit out because your team didn't win. You've have and had people that are fighting for change of the democratic party, and yeah it sure seems slow but progressives such as Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, Lee, Bush, Crockett and Pressley have made it into congress but again, change takes time and it 's been forty years of this so change isn't happening overnight. If you guys want to keep sitting out because of the sham of a "democracy", which again thanks to Americans not voting this election we won't have to deal with "democracy" ever again, then fine but don't expect change if you do and stop complaining when nothing does change.
And as for reality, you do have to deal with Trump and MAGA now on anything related to the middle east so good luck with that there isn't a single Democrat or Progressive that's in charge of that now.
I've never told anyone to not vote for the democrats and I've pointed out multiple times that I vote for democrats straight down the ballot every time and vote in every primary, so your entire response is moot. Sorry you had to type all those words directed at an argument I wasn't making at all.
And yet here you are yet again, jumping to the defense of those who are advocating for not voting and participating in the system and calling Democrats Nazi's and trying to make a case for them. If you're trying to win over hearts and minds about people voting progressive, you sure do suck at it and pick the worst threads to jump on by choosing to defend those who are advocating for not voting.
Back to the strawman again, I see. If you have a problem with people "advocating for not voting and participating in the system and calling Democrats Nazi’s" then take it up with them. All I'm doing is pointing out why democrats lose elections. Ignoring voters, mocking their concerns, insulting their intelligence, and taking their votes for granted is not going to "win over their hearts and minds".
keep trying to blame the dems for letting trump into the white house
you campaigned against harris trying to save gaza
you got trump
Our political system has false dichotomies throughout it by the nature of the two-party system and you're exhibiting a prime example of it. Pointing out that Harris should listen to voters is not campaigning against her. Also, Harris continuing the rhetoric of Biden, the guy who went out of his way to send billions of dollars in weapons to israel while they're committing genocide is not saving Gaza.
so you voted for harris?
Yes.
would you say that those criticizing biden/harris during the election over gaza hurt their chance of winning?
It depends on the criticism, how it's framed, how dominant it is in the discourse, and how democrats chose to respond. The economy is the biggest issue and it's what dominated mainstream discourse. It's a valid concern for the average voter because it's tough out there. Of course "the economy" means different things to different people. For the rich, the stock market and GDP are among the things that matter. For the poor, cost of groceries and rent are among the things that matter. Democrats decided the best way to respond would be to point to the stock market and GDP.
Criticizing a policy of sending billions of dollars in weapons to a country committing genocide is always the correct thing to do. Let's see how democrats responded: https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-clinton-justifies-mass-killings-000813500.html
Oh right, sending bill clinton (not sure how he hasn't been cancelled into oblivion yet, by the way) to defend this policy in the key state of Michigan where a large number of anti-genocide protesters are. Regardless of what you think of the policy, you'd have to admit it's an incredibly stupid strategy to do this. Instead the democratic party would like us all to believe that it's the voters who are to blame instead of democrats, who have/had the power to do things, not doing anything to get votes (i.e. the main job of a politician).
You're free to bury your head in the sand and continue to mock stupid voters, but it's never going to change things when the people with actual power do not want to change things.
so that's a yes
You didn't read my response, so I'll sum it up for you: democrats are the biggest reason why democrats lost.
no i read it, and on my specific question you answered yes
So your solution is to force everyone to never criticize democrats. Brilliant strategy, mate. I think we're done here.