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NASA increased the chances of asteroid 2024 YR4 hitting Earth to 1 in 32, or 3.1%, on Tuesday, but they're now back down to 1 in 67, or 1.5%.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Why don’t we know if it will hit or not… orbits are pretty easy to predict the future.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Because observations are never perfect, data are never complete, and gravitational interactions are complicated. The more observations you have the better you can estimate the orbit, but asteroids are hard to observe and you may not have that many data points. Mass and velocity must be estimated from observations that are compatible with different solutions. A brighter dot might mean a bigger asteroid or more reflective material, for example, and the mass depends on both. A particular speed of apparent motion is compatible with different velocities depending on whether and how much the asteroid is moving towards or away from the observer. All these kinds of factors make for uncertainty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I guess i didn’t realize the practicalities of guessing an objects mass location and momentum. I thought we knew most of the stuff in our solar system to pinpoint accuracy already. You’d think in-solar-system we’d have some kind of magic tech able to pinpoint stuff we can see in a telescope (radio, laser, idk). A telescope in mars orbit vs a telescope in solar orbit vs a telescope in earth orbit could get you position and velocity very accurately id think.

[–] threelonmusketeers 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's a shame you're being downvoted for genuine questions.

I thought we knew most of the stuff in our solar system to pinpoint accuracy already.

We know where all the big rocks are. Those smaller than a few hundred meters are much harder to spot.

A telescope in mars orbit vs a telescope in solar orbit vs a telescope in earth orbit could get you position and velocity very accurately id think.

It definitely could, but we don't really have astrometry telescopes beyond earth orbit. I can't wait until launch costs get low enough for us to yeet Hubble-class or Arecibo-class telescopes all over the solar system, and maybe even do interferometry between them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks. Oh is this not “big”? Do we at least have the dinosaur killers mapped out 🤞

[–] threelonmusketeers 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Oh is this not “big”?

Not compared to the dinosaur killer. Chicxulub was around 10 kilometers wide, while 2024 YR4 is estimated to be ~100 meters wide. A hundred-fold increase in linear size roughly corresponds to million-fold increases in volume, mass, and energy. 2024 YR4 could wipe out a city, but nothing close to the effects of Chicxulub.

Do we at least have the dinosaur killers mapped out 🤞

Yeah, I think we've catalogued those pretty extensively, and pinned down their orbits well enough to conclude that none of them pose a significant threat in the next century or so.

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