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I'll be honest, I do not know how to make a meme but I keep posting just to piss in these mods cheerios.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/50501
they are protesting literally Nationwide in front of every Capital in every state.
Alabama More than 200 protesters gathered outside Alabama's Statehouse
Alaska An estimated 123 people gathered outside Alaska's capitol building
Arkansas Approximately 200 protesters gathered on the outside Arkansas's capital
California During the February 5 protest, over 1,000 protesters gathered near the west steps of California's capitol building
Florida Around 300 protesters gathered outside the Florida State Capitol
...I mean seriously?
Denver had 4,000, Boston had a thousand, over 50 states(even your red ones), you have tens of thousands of people taking part in these protests simultaneously across the Nation.
and this is only one of the many protests going on.
this single protest is getting tens of thousands of people while other protests are happening.
so yes.
seriously.
I just took the first states alphabetically. In Germany we have protests against fascism just before our elections, the fascists are at 20% in the polls and we get 10,000s of people on the streets with protests in more than 60 cities.
But don't get me wrong, I don't want to downplay the US protests, I am glad about every single soul on the streets. It's just that I am shocked about the realities across the pond.
"I just took the first states alphabetically."
I know, that's why I pointed out that your numbers were totally off.
"we get 10,000s of people on the streets with protests in more than 60 cities."
Cool, so do the Americans.
"I am shocked about the realities across the pond."
Germans are usually very well versed in history, what about a fascist dictator rising to power surprises you?
I looked through the numbers of the other states in the article you shared and they all look the same. 4,000 in Colorado was max, most of the others are "a few hundred protesters"
Maybe, but this is not reflected in the article you shared.
No idea what you are talking about. I am just saying it seems that most of the US seems to be paralyzed.
"a few hundred protesters" ,
incorrect, but if it were correct, it still doubles the numbers that you were claiming.
"most of the US seems to be paralyzed."
you have multiple protests going on literally in every single state, every few days, with dozens of active lawsuits filed against the federal government, citizens going door-to-door informing people of their rights against ICE, Judges literally blocking his executive orders, and you think Americans are paralyzed.
active protest is nearly as opposite of paralysis as you can get.
you should get up to date on your information!
you are way off.
I just quoted the wiki article you shared, so that's where I got my information from. I already said I am glad about every single person protesting. No idea why you are being so aggressive.
I would like to end the discussion at this point. So if you like you can formulate an answer, but I will likely not respond.
"that's where I got my information from."
that is where you read a couple numbers from and then used those few random numbers, extrapolated an incorrect conclusion that you based your harmful advocacy for political apathy on.
"No idea why you are being so aggressive."
you're irritating, I am being irritated.
you aren't taking the time to craft factual sentences or relay correct information, so I have to keep correcting you.
"I would like to end the discussion at this point."
well, I'll give you a hint: talking to someone is a terrible way to end a conversation.
Historically successful protest campaigns need people in percents of the population to have an effect. Tens of thousands dividend by 350 million is... uh... not that.
boy, your education system is rough.
you don't need some particular percentage, you need to exert the will of the people to effect political change, as has happened many times before, as is happening now, and as will happen many times in the future.
protests work, factually and historically.
You're butting your head against reality.
If your claim is true, where does that leave these guys?
folks. search engines. then you don't have to prove yourselves wrong through your easily remeded ignorance.
your question is "does literally every single protest ever immediately achieve the exact aims it set out to?"
no.
Why would you think that?
also, it's not like that battle is over.
Why don't you Google these things first?
France is literally reassessing the pension move from 2023 right now, as of 3 days ago, because it isn't going to solve any problems.
"those guys" you mentioned are in a pretty good spot since everything they said in 2023 is being proved correct now.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/frances-latest-pensions-battle-could-ignite-fresh-political-crisis-2025-02-18/
Your claim that protesting works period would logically lead to that conclusion. If not all protests work then there must be effective and non-effective ways of protesting, and just the "will of the people" can't be enough. In hindsight the Iraq war would've been a better example here.
Considering the gravity of the situation, those numbers are devastatingly low.
Two weeks ago in Munich 250000 people protested against a fascist party -- before elections even started. Just to put things into perspective.
you are uninformed.
you are, like everyone else, referring to a very small percentage of a single new protest movement that I used as one offhand example that doesn't include any of the other protests simultaneously happening.
The US had 50 million people nationwide protesting racial unrest and Police brutality as recently as 2023, tens of millions in the US marched against gun control, feminism, environmental protection, lgbtq rights, in the last 5 years.
those tens of millions of people are a much higher percentage of the US population than the 250k you cite out of Germany's population.
"After several smaller-scale protests, in the evening of 12 January 2024 around 2,000 protested against the AfD at its Hamburg headquarters. The next day, a rally in Duisburg against an AfD new year's reception attracted around 2,400 protesters according to police, far more than anticipated by organizers at the time of registering the rally with authorities, which was before the Correctiv revelations. Also on 13 January, around 650 protestors .."
If your number is accurate, those protests started out much smaller than you are pretending, and 50501 has them beat hands down in their first week by scale and organization.
I am not saying that the US is better at protesting. I think Germans are very politically aware as a people and Europeans in general are more culturally open to and willing to protest, and don't shy away from it.
I'm trying to shed some light on how inaccurate your assumptions and conclusions about American protesting are.
That is fantastic and it is factor of a trillion better than no protests.