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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The amusing thing is that the sun is actually quite a shit fusion reactor. It's power per unit volume is tiny. It just makes it up in sheer volume. A solar level fusion reactor would be almost completely useless to us. Instead we need to go far beyond the sun's output to just be viable.

It's like describing one of the mega mining dumper trucks as an "artificial mule".

[–] merc 2 points 1 day ago

Sure, but it makes up for that by having an idiot proof design.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think this energy density math really depends on whether only the core or the whole surface area is taken into consideration.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even the core only has an output of 200-300W/m^3.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's about the energy output per volume of a 70 year old cyclist.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right, for the Americans here that hate metric.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente 8 points 2 days ago

Cyclist-years is a unit that has served us well for generations

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Arguably, the nearby sun scale fusion reactor has been fairly useful for us. Nowadays we can convert its output directly into electricity using solar cells

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I never said it wasn't useful, just a very low efficiency reactor. Then again, if it was better, it would burn out faster, which would be bad for life on earth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

It produces about the same power per cubic metre as compost does, which is pretty crazy when you think about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What I'm hearing is that we should mine the sun and make better use of all that fuel.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Just make sure you do it at night.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

That's part of the reason a moon base could be viable. The sun outputs a reasonable amount of helium 3, which is great for fusion reactions. Unfortunately it tends to sit at the top of our atmosphere and get blown away again. On the moon, it gets captured by the dust in collectable quantities.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Someone once told me a sun is just a fusion nuclear pile reactor and... Like... I guess.