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Great! Leave the US and come prosper in Canada.
Do not listen to him! Europe! Come to Europe! Great Benefits, long holidays and you can travel between multiple countries and temperature-zones. When staying in canada, you can only travel back to the US or take a plane to cross either one of the two biggest oceans to get anywhere. In Europe you can spend a decade without running out of places to go. Also: We love your brain. Please come to Europe!
Just make Canada part of EU, then you don't have to choose!
My partner wants to go to Europe but I don't know what country or language.
Come to France, we have cheeze, and wine, and bread 🥖🍾🥐🧀
Time to do some research :)
Its hard to discuss with my partner since the idea of leaving the country is already too much to bare as it is.
English is the language of science, so I'd argue that any country in Schengen would be the most straightforward choice. Climates can differ greatly, though, even within one country, so I always compare the temperature, sunshine and precipitation stats before moving some place new.
Oh learned a new word today. Schengen. Hmm how interactions in grocery store be? I imagine local language?
Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Finland. Not vouching for Czechia (my country) or Slovakia because the language could be a big barrier, but most people understand English and are used to it (at least workers in service).
Don't listen to him!!! We'll pay you more 😉
You also take more, rents in particular.
Yeah.... Yeah we do :(
Does Europe need IT workers? Software engineers?
YES! Especially germany! Senior developers are highly sought after. But you are expected to speak C1 german...
Greetings from a german Software dev
Sounds like I need to brush up on my German then. Appreciate the answer.
Greetings from a shithole country. Haha
To migrate to germany you need a safe income, job, place to stay and health insurance. You can get the health insurance after you have a contract.
Problem about germany is. Its migration is very tought. Lose your job and you have to leave the country first day you become homeless, unless you are on the european bluecard
"Shithole country" (sorry to make this joke) "Do yoi have any idea how little that narrows it down?"
Ain't that the truth. Haha, greetings from America. At this point I'm looking at options of what to do. So this definitely helps.
Move to france, germany, spain, denmark, sweden,norway, ireland or any other country in europe except hungary and slovakia
Yes but the pay is literally half of what you could get in the states except for Switzerland.
You may get half but will have way more benefits than ever in the US. The median income of frontend dev is 60k in germany
Software engineering is dying in Switzerland. It's flooded with layoffs from Credit Suisse, UBS, post covid Google and other faang layoffs in Zurich. IT almost doesn't exist anywhere else in Switzerland, maybe except from Geneve CERN. Elsewhere they are job positions reserved for swiss if you can play swiss politics and speak Swiss German ( which you can learn only by being raised there )... I spent there 5 years and recently went back to Poland ( I speak both English and standard German but still ... dont bank on this that its enough )
Rents are also 1/2. Cannot vouch for devs, but in our IT department, nobody speaks German.
Plus they've got stupid plugs
Problem is with the next generation of scientists. They can’t leave the country before they’ve made it.
if there will be a next generation of scientists,