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[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago (33 children)

Me. You can’t deny that lemmy and mastodon feel shoddy compared to the big names. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t use the other motherfuckers, but there are tons of times where I reload my feed and it errors or is empty.

Just the nature of running your own services, and I accept it.

But still, anyone coming from Reddit is going to 100% say it feels shoddy.

[–] sbv 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

Running Sync for Lemmy against sh.itjust.works gives me an almost identical experience to Reddit.

Except for the content. Lemmy doesn't have enough people posting and has an exceedingly narrow Overton window (for example).

I want Lemmy to succeed, but we really need to retain users.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (5 children)

So you are saying Lemmy can't compete because we don't have enough Nazis? Weird take.

This fallacy that you can have a wide range of viewpoints anymore is dead, and is parroted by folks that miss the days of yelling at people on the Internet. However, Trump has taken his cult far enough Right they are beyond meaningful discussion/debate. You can't debate things that aren't even based in reality, and when you call them on it they dismiss it as hearsay/honest mistake/do your research.

For example, the media called Musk on his quote of the US sending $50 million worth of condoms to Gaza. His response was nonsense.

"Some of the things that I say will be incorrect, and should be corrected. So, nobody’s going to bat a thousand. I mean, any – you know, we will make mistakes, but we’ll act quickly to correct any mistakes.”

[–] sbv 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So you are saying Lemmy can't compete because we don't have enough Nazis?

I'm saying that comments outside of a very narrow world view on Lemmy are greeted with hostility. Like the comment I'm replying to.

This covers lots of different areas. I get downvotes and snarky comments when I say I like the wrong Lemmy client or browser. When I ask about suggestions for a ttrpg, I get a snarky comment saying I'm asking questions wrong. When the leader of the Canadian Conservative party comes up in conversation, saying he does anything effectively is met with snark and downvotes - not that he's good, but that he's effective at something.

I understand this is a shitty time in US politics. I don't like the outcome either - Trump is gonna make my life worse, and I don't live in the US. But look at your comments on this thread: they're hostile towards people that probably agree with you. This kind of rage makes the platform unwelcoming and shitty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I took your comment to mean you didn't think we had enough Nazis on Lemmy, to which I will respond hostile towards. If you are anti-Nazi then you should not use the idea of an anti-Nazi comment to illustrate this fake idea of to narrow of political viewpoints on Lemmy.

Also, debating fascism is a whole different thing than people giving you shit over your choice of browser or Lemmy client. You shouldn't conflate the two.

[–] sbv 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't think any comments in this thread have referred to Nazis or fascism, other than yours. Nobody here is disagreeing that those things are bad.

I used your comment as an illustration that Lemmy has a tiny Overton window: when anyone comments outside the window, they're smacked down. Instead of asking the original commenter for clarification, your comment suggested they want Nazis on the platform. That was a good illustration of my point.

Your comments in this thread only make sense if you assume the worst about other Lemmites. Please don't do that. If there's ambiguity, there's no need to assume we're douche wagons. Maybe ask for clarification. Make a friendly joke? I dunno.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

You implied that my anti-Nazi comment from a different post was somehow a negative, thus making this thread about Nazis/fascism. It was a poor example of what I think you wanted to convey in terms of how you see political discourse on Lemmy.

You also for some reason see Nazis the same as people that disagree or down vote you about browser choice. That seems like a giant leap, and conflating the two is painting Lemmy with a broad brush. They are two wildly different issues and deserve different discussions as to why.

And my original comment came from someone that just stated that Fediverse was worse than the Commercial versions that are havens for fascists. And also the fact they track you around the Internet. So I did ask the question, and now you're trying to turn this into some kind of douche wagon rodeo apparently.

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