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The Democrats seemed quite fine with risking Trans people to be loaded into boxcars. Also many people immediately lasged out at ethnic minorities and queer people for not supporting the Democrats as strongly.
For the DNC they only got some considerations, when they were useful for power. Now that they didnt grant it, they got tossed aside.
Case in point all the D-Representatives now helping to vote Trump officials into elected government positions.
I guess the answer is yes, you will keep rehashing the election even as people are being loaded into boxcars.
I mean "what the fuck happened in November 2024" is an important question to answer if you're ever going to stop people from being loaded into boxcars.
Except people aren't rehashing it to learn, everyone is just rehashing things to assign blame.
Fuck, Republicans had their whole postmortem and even they managed to learn and now control all three branches of government.
That's fair, but I think you can't have one without the other. I mean assigning blame as an end in and of itself is pretty unproductive, but I still do believe that there's something to be gained from those conversations as people use them as springboards to figure out the question of what the fuck to do about this. Shutting down conversations about the election is just not the way to go if your goal is to eventually defeat fascism.
Many people are rehashing it in defense, because these posts always start with assigning blame for not voting in Harris.
It would be great if the Democratic Party started running a more popular platform and won the election by something other than begrudging lesser-of-two-evils votes. Obama’s first term showed how powerful that could be.
Hopefully the Democratic Party has learned that bringing a status-quo to a populist fight isn’t a good idea, but I’m not holding my breath on that anymore.
Everyone here's rehashed and rehashed and rehashed, I've seen the same people come back with the same things over and over again on these threads.
I mean it's cathartic to a point but damn, one thing you don't see a lot of "what the fuck am I going to do about it". Well outside of those going I'm never going to vote again people.
The Democratic party isn't going to do a thing on their own at this point, leadership is too old, ineffective, unwilling to change without a shit ton of external stimulus. Had a nice discussion thread about calling your rep and yeah, kind of came to the conclusion that the Democrats should be doing this on their own but they're just too dumb and scared so I'm going to call them even though I'm never going to like them.
For me, I'm also going to increase my donation to progressive groups this year because unfortunately moving to another country isn't in the cards for me and then maybe phone bank again, though that's going to be rough because damn voters are stupid.
Really? How?
Because one thing (holding your nosed and uniting behind the Democrats) was tried, and miserably failed. If you don't know why it failed you'll never know how to do better, or even if it is possible to do better. I guess my point is that those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it, and y'all really can't afford a repeat of this election.
You seem to be operating under the ludicrous assumption that there will ever be non-Russian style elections in the U.S. again.
You seem to also be operating under the ludicrous assumption that Republicans will ever give up power willingly now that they control all three branches of government.
No wonder you want to keep talking about the election. You think nothing has changed.
Keep acting like America isn't a fascist dictatorship right now. Be sure you tell all the brown and queer people that they have nothing to worry about too.
My god.
I mean Putin had to win two consecutive elections before he could become the dictator he is today. America still has time. There's still freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, a mostly independent judiciary, and all the other hallmarks of a democracy. These things will be taken away if the American people don't resist, but again that takes time. It's way too early to conclude that American democracy is doomed. Minorities (and everyone else Republicans hate) do have a lot to worry about, but America is not a fascist dictatorship just yet.
Please give a realistic scenario in which Republicans would willingly give up the total control of the U.S. government that they have now.
You're acting like you're not worried at all. 🤔
When they lose the midterm elections? The institutions of American democracy aren't yet eroded enough that a bunch of dictators can just declare that elections don't matter. They need more time before they can just... Refuse to give up power. Things like freedom of speech and freedom of assembly, not to mention the independent power of the judiciary and states, would have to go first. If they pulled such a stunt in two years they just might push the blue states to secede, which would be too much of a shitshow even for the GOP.
I mean I don't live in America so I'm not personally worried.
Why would they acknowledge that they lost? Why would they give up power if they lost? You're just saying they will. Why?
And there it is. "The genocides won't affect me, so I'm not worried about it." Plus, they're icky queer and brown people, am I right?
Again, because if they don't the country will implode and they'll lose all power. Or the military will physically remove them. Dismantling a democracy isn't something you can just declare. It's a lot of painstaking hard work, especially in a country with checks and balances as strong as America.
I said personally for a reason. It's another bad thing happening in the world that I hope won't happen, but don't have the emotional capacity to strongly sympathize with.
Your lack of sympathy over the two genocides going on in the U.S. is noted. I guess there's only room in your heart for one genocide.
Also, this is fucking hilarious:
But I don't blame you for not knowing why what with you not having lived in the U.S. for 47 years.
“Why doesn’t anyone care about the German victims of Nazism like they do the Jewish victims”
You do understand why no one gives as much of a shit about your “genocide” in the US, y’know aside from it not happening in the first place.
Yes, I do understand that humans are selfish, sadistic creatures who don't give a shit about people suffering if they get to feel smug about it.
I just wish that wasn't the case.
Sadly, you are not changing my mind on that.
I think the way forward is to get away from both Republicans and Democrats and bring people into power, who are not part of either. Going back to the Democrats is not going to make things better again. Another example for that is the migration and deportation policies of Biden, which were mostly a continuation of Trumps policies.