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Early car sales data for January is starting to arrive from countries across the pond, and they paint an alarming picture for Tesla. Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UKβ€”all affluent countries that are key markets for Tesla's electric vehicles. Coming on the heels of a large financial miss, it's just one more problem for the automaker.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Beside the whole Elon is a Nazi story,

Peope who can spend the price of an appartment in a car, already own a Tesla, and other brands start to make decent electric car. Sure the Electric version of the Peugeot 208 or the fiat 500 may lack a bit range to be usable, but if you go to intermediate models you'll find car which can definitely compete with a Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Sure the Electric version of the Peugeot 208 or the fiat 500 may lack a bit range to be usable,

Um, I disagree. According to ADAC (german automobile club) testings, a Fiat 500 EV has a range of 150 km or 250 km (small and big battery, respectively). Even 150 km is perfectly fine for the daily ride to work and some groceries on the way home.
The latest Peugeot e-208 according to ADAC tests has a range of 360 km.
For comparison: ADAC tested the Skoda Enyaq 85x (their test winner for compact cars in that testing cycle) in march 24 with 300-450 km. Both the Fiat 500 and the Peugeot 208 are designed for urban environments though, and you don't need a huge range there. Both cars have adequate ranges for their environment.
(Both are way too expensive though, but that is a common issue among european BEVs.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago) (1 children)

I have a few fiats and Peugeot parked outside my house and for a urban environment the Peugeot is freaking huge when compared to the cute and small fiat that actually fits in a urban environment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

They're not that different. A Fiat 500 EV is only 42.3 cm shorter and 6.2 cm slimmer but 9.7 cm taller than a Peugeot e-208.